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[edit] I was about to say thank you...
Thanks for fixing my link. However, you are an asshole for rick rolling me!
- I have one thing to say: LOL--4scen 22:22, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] RE: User:Dark Assasin
That was my first thought too, which is why I did it infinite the first time. I went to CT about it when I got your message and he told me to give him a one or two-month block. Because this is a first offense, I'll just let it go as that. The next time he does it, it's infinite, no questions asked. SmokeSound off! 22:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Multiple Edits
Yeah, the multiple edits there weren't about getting more points. It was an effort to save my progress on such a large page just in case something messed up (as it seems to do a lot with me). I mean.. wow. The credits for Halo wars are so f---'in huge, the last thing I wanted was to have a good chunk of it disappear on me.
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Rusty-112 07:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- i no right... but 'tis the rules. Better use those Preview pages and Minor edits buttons.--4scen 07:03, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Cassandra
Please note that on page 83 of the Halo Encyclopedia, Cassandra-075 is not marked as a wash out.
- Please refer to the article of Cassandra-075. It specifically stated that she suffers from a failed augmentation procedures... oh, and that is from Halo 2 which is a superior canon than Halo Encyclopaedia.--Lol@Phailure 18:01, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Cassandra's article needs revision. She was in that special edition booklet, she is a spartan, and she was wounded so bad as to not have skin. The point that you missed is that nowhere in that booklet from Halo 2 does it state that she was wounded by her augmentations. Thus, Conversations from the Universe and Halo Encyclopedia do not controdict each other. The encyclopedia merely adds to Cassandras info.
- I would assume it's because of the Catalytic thyroid implant where if failed, the growth of skeletal and muscle tissues would be uncontrollable, thus causing the skin to tear apart.--Lol@Phailure 18:17, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- We can not come to the same conclusion if you are not willing to accept an official publiscized source. As of yet you appear unwilling to listen to logic. It is indead my friend you who are messing things up. Now please, converse with me. I want to figure this out and make the appropriate updates.
- Problem is that one source says one thing and another says another thing. For example, ILB specifically states that Yasmin was born in 2531, yet your Encyclopaedia said she is part of the Class-I (born in 2511). So, logically speaking, unless this Yasmin has the power to time travel, it stays.--Lol@Phailure 18:51, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Yesmine is a different issue. I am reffering to Cassandra. There is no confusion about her. The confusion comes from you. Why will you not accept that Conversations from the Universe and the Halo Encyclopedia do not contradict each other. There is no need for this childish behavior. A new piece of canon was introduced. It needs to be included.Spartan999 18:55, October 29, 2009 (UTC) sorry for not taging my comments so far.
- I think Dragonclaws has stated that the term "wash-out": In usual uses it just means dropped out, but in the Spartan program they used it as a euphemism for the augmentations going horribly wrong.--Lol@Phailure 18:57, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Again, not the point. If you haven't seen the Halo Encyclopedia yet, I will inform you about page 83. On that page, there is a chart that lists all the Spartans from previous fiction, excluding the ones from Halo Wars. In this chart there is a foot note that labels the marked spartans as wash outs. Cassandra-075 is not one of them. If you would like, I can email you a scaned picture of that page for refrence, but it will be a few hours before I can.
- Sure, email me a scanned picture.--Lol@Phailure 19:12, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- It will be about 17:00 CST before I can get it to you. If you would like to send me a private message with your email adress, or would rather I send it to you by other means, please let me know.
- I'd just like to note that Cassandra would still be in the same place, "Discharged". She is still alive but no longer serving in battle, just like Fhajad-- Forerunner 19:21, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Then that section needs revision for clarification, as it leads the reader to believe that she was one of the 12 wash outs.Spartan999 19:27, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Souldn't Maria also be in the Discharged section because of her Retired status?SPARTAN-177 19:33, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- I believe that whole section needs revision, like I said earlier. The problem is that we now have a flood of new information and not enough people are up to date to get everything worked out. That section of the article is outdated.Spartan999 19:40, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Be careful, remember that the Encyclopaedia has been known to make outright contradictions in some parts (for more information, see: Talk:Halo Encyclopedia).-- Forerunner 19:49, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- I believe that whole section needs revision, like I said earlier. The problem is that we now have a flood of new information and not enough people are up to date to get everything worked out. That section of the article is outdated.Spartan999 19:40, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Souldn't Maria also be in the Discharged section because of her Retired status?SPARTAN-177 19:33, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Then that section needs revision for clarification, as it leads the reader to believe that she was one of the 12 wash outs.Spartan999 19:27, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- I'd just like to note that Cassandra would still be in the same place, "Discharged". She is still alive but no longer serving in battle, just like Fhajad-- Forerunner 19:21, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- It will be about 17:00 CST before I can get it to you. If you would like to send me a private message with your email adress, or would rather I send it to you by other means, please let me know.
- Sure, email me a scanned picture.--Lol@Phailure 19:12, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Again, not the point. If you haven't seen the Halo Encyclopedia yet, I will inform you about page 83. On that page, there is a chart that lists all the Spartans from previous fiction, excluding the ones from Halo Wars. In this chart there is a foot note that labels the marked spartans as wash outs. Cassandra-075 is not one of them. If you would like, I can email you a scaned picture of that page for refrence, but it will be a few hours before I can.
- I think Dragonclaws has stated that the term "wash-out": In usual uses it just means dropped out, but in the Spartan program they used it as a euphemism for the augmentations going horribly wrong.--Lol@Phailure 18:57, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Yesmine is a different issue. I am reffering to Cassandra. There is no confusion about her. The confusion comes from you. Why will you not accept that Conversations from the Universe and the Halo Encyclopedia do not contradict each other. There is no need for this childish behavior. A new piece of canon was introduced. It needs to be included.Spartan999 18:55, October 29, 2009 (UTC) sorry for not taging my comments so far.
- Problem is that one source says one thing and another says another thing. For example, ILB specifically states that Yasmin was born in 2531, yet your Encyclopaedia said she is part of the Class-I (born in 2511). So, logically speaking, unless this Yasmin has the power to time travel, it stays.--Lol@Phailure 18:51, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- We can not come to the same conclusion if you are not willing to accept an official publiscized source. As of yet you appear unwilling to listen to logic. It is indead my friend you who are messing things up. Now please, converse with me. I want to figure this out and make the appropriate updates.
- I would assume it's because of the Catalytic thyroid implant where if failed, the growth of skeletal and muscle tissues would be uncontrollable, thus causing the skin to tear apart.--Lol@Phailure 18:17, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Cassandra's article needs revision. She was in that special edition booklet, she is a spartan, and she was wounded so bad as to not have skin. The point that you missed is that nowhere in that booklet from Halo 2 does it state that she was wounded by her augmentations. Thus, Conversations from the Universe and Halo Encyclopedia do not controdict each other. The encyclopedia merely adds to Cassandras info.
[edit] Page 83
How would you like me to send the picture to you.Spartan999 21:34, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Via email... through here.--Lol@Phailure 21:43, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- I hate to drag this out further, but I am not familiar with that feature. Can I attach images to it. I would just upload the image straight to Halopedia, but there is that thing about it not being a image hosting site.Spartan999 22:43, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- That's ok. That rule means that you shouldn't just add random images that are of no use: ie. Pornographic images (that's happened before).-- Forerunner 22:52, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- My email is 4scension@gmail.com.--Lol@Phailure 22:54, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- I have sent the picture to your email account.Spartan999 00:59, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Now, looking at how they formatted the page, I think this is an error in 343 Industries side. All there is in that page is just a list of SPARTAN-IIs, without mentioning what Class they are. So, I believe it is safe to say that there is a possibility of a Class-II. Also, based on what you've sent me, the Encyclopaedia seems to indicate that the Class-IIs utilises unused SPARTAN tags from the previous class. Hmm.... it looks like the Encyclopaedia is not that interesting as I thought it would be. Oh, I forgot to mention this in my previous comments; if Yasmine was a Class-I (thus, born in 2511), how about the characters in the ILB universe? How about her big brother Kamal Zaman? If Yasmine is a Class-I, it would create an mighty big dung (dung as in inconsistency) in the ILB universe.--Lol@Phailure 01:09, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- There is one big assumption that you have made. 'The existence of Class 2.' There is still no evidence of that class. And the page I sent you suggests nothing about class 2 using unused tags. That is another assumption on your part. All it was saying is that just because a Spartan has a tag with a numerical value over 75, does not mean that there were more than 75 Spartans. That is actually a very boring page. I highly recommend the Encyclopedia, as it is by far the most expansive and physically large Halo publication yet produced. As far as Yasmine goes, well thats a little bit bigger of an issue. There was a statement made by Joe Staten (I unfortunately don't have it on hand, but you could find it easily enough on the bnet search) stating that if they had to go on record and define what is canon and what is not, ILBs would not make the cut. But, they have yet to do this . Unfortunately this leaves her issue up in the air. I will admit, it could still swing both ways. However, it is completely ignorant for Forerunner to completely erase my revisions to the Yasmine and SPARTAN-II Project articles. We have to hear both sided of the story and let the reader decide for themselves until we get some kind of official statement. Believe me, there are much bigger holes in the Halo universe than the Spartan class debate,i.e. the ten years that seem to be missing in the Fall of Reach. Nylund, or his editors, can't seem to decide if it's 2542 or 2552.Spartan999 01:38, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, Staten stated in 2007 that the ILB Universe is canon unless of course it contradicts the superior canon. (See this!) Also, it is actually common sense to say there could be a Class-II. Because the Class-I group ended in 2525 (when Ackerson redirected all funds from Halsey's S-II for his S-IIIs) and that Yasmine was said to be conscripted in 2537, I think it is safe to say she is part of Class-II. That is how we reached the conclusion that there is a Class-II. Also, regarding the unused tags, I made that conclusion because only 75 out of 150 SPARTAN-IIs made the cut into the Class-I. So, from that, I deduced that the Class-II might have reused the other 75 SPARTAN tags... and this is supported with the scanned image you sent me.--Lol@Phailure 01:49, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- You just contradicted yourself. You just said that it is common sense there is a class 2 because funding go cut off. You still just can not seem to get the point. Class 2 is conjecture, not fact. I sill fail to see how that page proves that they reused tags. Show me where it says that unused tags were put back into the pot. I hat to say this, but I just don't think we are communicating on the same level.Spartan999 02:30, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Either you misread my comment or I didn't write it clearly... Let me start again; We know that the SPARTAN-II Class I ended officially with the augmentation procedure in 2525 (Graduation). We know that Ackerson later took off the funds from Halsey's to shut off her program and start his program. We know that from the Yasmine was born in 2531 and later conscripted into the SPARTAN-II program in 2537. Now, let's put it all together; Class I ended in 2525 officially. Yasmin conscripted into another SPARTAN-II program at the age of 6 in 2537. Class I ended in 2525. There is no other mentioned Classes in between 2525 and 2537. Thus, we can safely assume she's in Class II of the SPARTAN-II Program. Also, Nicole-458 is said to be a Class-II SPARTAN-II. However, her existence in the Halo Universe is not canon, but the description of the Class-II is canon, according to Bungie. So, again, we can safely assume there is a Class-II. Note, I have never used any affirmed words; all I ever said is I believe and we can safely assume hinting an assumption with supported evidence and not a confirmation.--Lol@Phailure 02:37, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- There, you said it, four times in fact. The key word here is "assume". Assumption has no place outside of the Trivia section. Your assumptions do not become canon no mater how many people jump on the bandwagon. And again you keep shooting your self in the foot. How is stating that SPARTAN-II funding was cut prove that there was a class 2?Spartan999 02:48, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- ...... Assumptions with supported evidences have a place in any encyclopaedia, provided that they are the correct evidences and are up-to-date. This is how common sense is produced, in a way. Common Sense dictates that (repeats): Let me start again; We know that the SPARTAN-II Class I ended officially with the augmentation procedure in 2525 (Graduation). We know that Ackerson later took off the funds from Halsey's to shut off her program and start his program. We know that from the Yasmine was born in 2531 and later conscripted into the SPARTAN-II program in 2537. Now, let's put it all together; Class I ended in 2525 officially. Yasmin conscripted into another SPARTAN-II program at the age of 6 in 2537. Class I ended in 2525. There is no other mentioned Classes in between 2525 and 2537. Thus, we can safely assume she's in Class II of the SPARTAN-II Program. Sometimes you just have to use Common Sense in order to solve these inconsistencies/holes. Again, repeating myself, Class-I ended officially in 2525. Thus, there is no Class I from here onwards. The SPARTAN-II program was put on hold by Ackerson effectively in 2531. Got that? That's canon info from the novels (unless of course you want to detest that the novels are also not canon). Now, let's move to the next point: There is no more Class I in 2531. The program was on hold till 2537 where we heard Yasmine was conscripted into a SPARTAN-II program. Now, ask yourself; Why in the world is the SPARTAN-II program still here? Isn't it effectively closed down in 2531? Seeing that the Class-I graduated in 2525, how about those graduating in second SPARTAN-II program? What should we call them?--Lol@Phailure 03:03, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Just repeating your self gets this debate nowhere. I should be the one accusing you of wanting to contest (not detest)the novels, as I have shown far more respect for publicized work...point being, don't be an ass.
- ...... Assumptions with supported evidences have a place in any encyclopaedia, provided that they are the correct evidences and are up-to-date. This is how common sense is produced, in a way. Common Sense dictates that (repeats): Let me start again; We know that the SPARTAN-II Class I ended officially with the augmentation procedure in 2525 (Graduation). We know that Ackerson later took off the funds from Halsey's to shut off her program and start his program. We know that from the Yasmine was born in 2531 and later conscripted into the SPARTAN-II program in 2537. Now, let's put it all together; Class I ended in 2525 officially. Yasmin conscripted into another SPARTAN-II program at the age of 6 in 2537. Class I ended in 2525. There is no other mentioned Classes in between 2525 and 2537. Thus, we can safely assume she's in Class II of the SPARTAN-II Program. Sometimes you just have to use Common Sense in order to solve these inconsistencies/holes. Again, repeating myself, Class-I ended officially in 2525. Thus, there is no Class I from here onwards. The SPARTAN-II program was put on hold by Ackerson effectively in 2531. Got that? That's canon info from the novels (unless of course you want to detest that the novels are also not canon). Now, let's move to the next point: There is no more Class I in 2531. The program was on hold till 2537 where we heard Yasmine was conscripted into a SPARTAN-II program. Now, ask yourself; Why in the world is the SPARTAN-II program still here? Isn't it effectively closed down in 2531? Seeing that the Class-I graduated in 2525, how about those graduating in second SPARTAN-II program? What should we call them?--Lol@Phailure 03:03, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- There, you said it, four times in fact. The key word here is "assume". Assumption has no place outside of the Trivia section. Your assumptions do not become canon no mater how many people jump on the bandwagon. And again you keep shooting your self in the foot. How is stating that SPARTAN-II funding was cut prove that there was a class 2?Spartan999 02:48, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Either you misread my comment or I didn't write it clearly... Let me start again; We know that the SPARTAN-II Class I ended officially with the augmentation procedure in 2525 (Graduation). We know that Ackerson later took off the funds from Halsey's to shut off her program and start his program. We know that from the Yasmine was born in 2531 and later conscripted into the SPARTAN-II program in 2537. Now, let's put it all together; Class I ended in 2525 officially. Yasmin conscripted into another SPARTAN-II program at the age of 6 in 2537. Class I ended in 2525. There is no other mentioned Classes in between 2525 and 2537. Thus, we can safely assume she's in Class II of the SPARTAN-II Program. Also, Nicole-458 is said to be a Class-II SPARTAN-II. However, her existence in the Halo Universe is not canon, but the description of the Class-II is canon, according to Bungie. So, again, we can safely assume there is a Class-II. Note, I have never used any affirmed words; all I ever said is I believe and we can safely assume hinting an assumption with supported evidence and not a confirmation.--Lol@Phailure 02:37, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- You just contradicted yourself. You just said that it is common sense there is a class 2 because funding go cut off. You still just can not seem to get the point. Class 2 is conjecture, not fact. I sill fail to see how that page proves that they reused tags. Show me where it says that unused tags were put back into the pot. I hat to say this, but I just don't think we are communicating on the same level.Spartan999 02:30, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, Staten stated in 2007 that the ILB Universe is canon unless of course it contradicts the superior canon. (See this!) Also, it is actually common sense to say there could be a Class-II. Because the Class-I group ended in 2525 (when Ackerson redirected all funds from Halsey's S-II for his S-IIIs) and that Yasmine was said to be conscripted in 2537, I think it is safe to say she is part of Class-II. That is how we reached the conclusion that there is a Class-II. Also, regarding the unused tags, I made that conclusion because only 75 out of 150 SPARTAN-IIs made the cut into the Class-I. So, from that, I deduced that the Class-II might have reused the other 75 SPARTAN tags... and this is supported with the scanned image you sent me.--Lol@Phailure 01:49, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- There is one big assumption that you have made. 'The existence of Class 2.' There is still no evidence of that class. And the page I sent you suggests nothing about class 2 using unused tags. That is another assumption on your part. All it was saying is that just because a Spartan has a tag with a numerical value over 75, does not mean that there were more than 75 Spartans. That is actually a very boring page. I highly recommend the Encyclopedia, as it is by far the most expansive and physically large Halo publication yet produced. As far as Yasmine goes, well thats a little bit bigger of an issue. There was a statement made by Joe Staten (I unfortunately don't have it on hand, but you could find it easily enough on the bnet search) stating that if they had to go on record and define what is canon and what is not, ILBs would not make the cut. But, they have yet to do this . Unfortunately this leaves her issue up in the air. I will admit, it could still swing both ways. However, it is completely ignorant for Forerunner to completely erase my revisions to the Yasmine and SPARTAN-II Project articles. We have to hear both sided of the story and let the reader decide for themselves until we get some kind of official statement. Believe me, there are much bigger holes in the Halo universe than the Spartan class debate,i.e. the ten years that seem to be missing in the Fall of Reach. Nylund, or his editors, can't seem to decide if it's 2542 or 2552.Spartan999 01:38, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Now, looking at how they formatted the page, I think this is an error in 343 Industries side. All there is in that page is just a list of SPARTAN-IIs, without mentioning what Class they are. So, I believe it is safe to say that there is a possibility of a Class-II. Also, based on what you've sent me, the Encyclopaedia seems to indicate that the Class-IIs utilises unused SPARTAN tags from the previous class. Hmm.... it looks like the Encyclopaedia is not that interesting as I thought it would be. Oh, I forgot to mention this in my previous comments; if Yasmine was a Class-I (thus, born in 2511), how about the characters in the ILB universe? How about her big brother Kamal Zaman? If Yasmine is a Class-I, it would create an mighty big dung (dung as in inconsistency) in the ILB universe.--Lol@Phailure 01:09, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- I have sent the picture to your email account.Spartan999 00:59, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- My email is 4scension@gmail.com.--Lol@Phailure 22:54, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- That's ok. That rule means that you shouldn't just add random images that are of no use: ie. Pornographic images (that's happened before).-- Forerunner 22:52, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- I hate to drag this out further, but I am not familiar with that feature. Can I attach images to it. I would just upload the image straight to Halopedia, but there is that thing about it not being a image hosting site.Spartan999 22:43, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- "The program was on hold till 2537 where we heard Yasmine was conscripted into a SPARTAN-II program."
- Do you see the problem with this statement. Only half of it is true. Yes she was conscripted in 2537. However, please show me where you get the info about the program being put on hold. According to Ghosts of Onyx, pages 47-48, Halsey's funding was rerouted, not put on hold.
- I want you to pay VERY close attention to this part. As you said, funding was cut in 2531. What sense does it make to say that this does not effect the supposed class 2. It is almost as if you see class 2 as a seperate program, according to your lack of association of the two in the later half of your last post.
- I will not continue wasting my time arguing to a brick wall. If you are unwilling to put forth any evidence other than your own logic, then this debate is over, and Halopedia will be incomplete because of it.Spartan999 03:34, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Seriously, you still don't understand what my simplest form of explanation? *facepalms* What sense does it make to say that this does not effect the supposed class 2. It is almost as if you see class 2 as a seperate program, -- It does affected the Class II, however this effect only applies in the ILB Universe. Yes, it is a separate SPARTAN-II Program seeing that the first SPARTAN-II program was effectively put on hold by Ackerson (repeating myself again) in 2525 and later we see that it was revived in 2537 as stated in ILB. Let's take a real life event for example; Your parents went to a University in Chicago. They are the first generation. You went to the same University your parent went. You are the second generation. So, your parents would be considered First Generation and you'll be Second Generation. Is there any source claiming you're not the second generation? Possibly not... but with common sense, we can safely say that you are the second generation.--Lol@Phailure 10:15, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, forgot an official excerpt from Halo: Fall of Reach: In Halo: Fall of Reach, after graduation in 2525, the Class I SPARTANs are told that there will be another class of SPARTAN IIs.--Lol@Phailure 10:22, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Talk page Conflicts
This is the second time I have told you two (you and Galacticdominator) to cease and desist. The warning in the last article's talk page was meant for the both of you. There will not be a warning next time; do NOT bicker on my talk pages. SmokeSound off! 17:03, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Origin of Separatist
What the heck? That is valuable information that you removed without any explanation. Why would you undo my edit? It is an important explanation --J miester25 02:13, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
- More like phail information.--Lol@Phailure 02:24, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
