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Girl Power - Miranda Keyes, Dual Wielding, and Halo 3 ODST

Halo 3: ODST looks like a great game, right? Umm... sort of. Those who prefer major vehicular combat will be slightly disappointed, as the only drivable vehicles will probably be the Warthog (obviously), the Mongoose, and the Ghost. And about those Energy Shields... *cough* it looks like they WILL NOT be returning. On Halo 3 Matchmaking, do your opponents stare in awe and wonder as you hop around like a bunny on caffeine, evading even there perfectly aimed Battle rifle bullets? You must be a fan of jumping. Unfortunately, normal humans, such as ODSTs, cannot jump as high as a Spartan.

I'm thinking this we be sort of a free-roam Call of Duty type of game. I have to admit, I was disappointed that Elites weren't returning, and that you had to fight Brutes (stupid Brutes), as in Halo 3. And as for aircraft, I never really liked flying Hornets anyway. Banshees, however, I'll miss.

The thing that REALLY gets me angry about ODST will be the lack of dual-wielding!! I mean, are humans really so pathetic that they cannot dual-wield two stripped-down SMGs? I do not think so! And now, here we go back to the title of this blog. It says "Girl Power" and "Miranda Keyes" for a reason. Who is the only known human (other than John-117 in the Halo video game series to dual-wield weapons? Was it Johnson? NO. Was it Hood? NOOOO! It was Commander Keyes (who has mysteriously been demoted to Lieutenant Commander, according to CommanderTony).

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Miranda Keyes does not hesitate to dual-wield... then she died of course...

In the Halo 2 level Quarantine Zone, Keyes blasts Thel 'Vadamee in the face with two SMGs. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. TWO SMGS. Not one SMG, but two. But now, let me get off topic for a second. Can someone inform me exactly how the Arbiter has been connected to Thel 'Vadamee? I've read Halo: the Cole Protocol, but I don't see the link.

Now, back on topic, Keyes later on the Ark dual wields a Shotgun, (which is huge, by the way), and a Magnum, and crushes a couple Brutes with her Pelican, after smashing through a window stupidly but bravely attempt to save Johnson! (He always seems to get captured, doesn't he?) If a Navy pilot like Miranda Keyes can dual wield a weapon, why can't all these "tough male battle-hardened" Marines do it? That, my friends, is a question we must all face.

Back to the title again, two more female (in a sense) characters that are underrated terribly are two sarcastic, and in Specops306's words, "bitchy" AIs. Can you guess? Cortana and Serina. I won't get into details about book characters, like Kelly-087, or Adriana-111 (what a pretty name!) I am so tired of puffed up, vain, over-hyped male characters that it makes me sick. That's why I love characters like Serina, and Cortana, who can show a man who's boss in this pathetically sexist male-dominant society that we so sadly live in. (Sadly, Cortana's role in Halo 3 was much diminished due to a crappy storyline). Samus Aran is also a good example of an important female protagonist (Princess Peach is just pathetic). Even Bungie is guilty of being sexist; after an ill-advised and pathetic (not to mention a complete failure) attempted rescue of Johnson, Miranda Keyes was killed by Truth.

Halo 3: ODST will be good, like Halo Wars, but not as good as everyone thinks it will be, also like Halo Wars.


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I wouldn't say "bitchy". That's got a mean vibe to it. Cortana and Serina are snarky and sarcastic. And, honestly, sarcastic AIs are a common element in science-fiction.

Yes, Miranda does subvert the sexist standard by being a bit of an action hero - more than her father, actually. And yes, she does get killed really quickly. Also a bit of a sexist cliche in that she is killed for feeling emotional and not killing Johnson to save the world. Personally, I think Bungie wrote it that way so the black guy wouldn't die first.

And yeah, Cortana turns into a damsel-in-distress. To her credit, at least she leads the Chief from her position to come to the Ark and help destroy the Gravemind.

Spartan-458 is pretty good. She is the only non-fanservice character of DoA, and has the "That's how you hit like a girl" line. She wasn't really made by Bungie, though. --Dragonclaws(talk) 21:45, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

When i described Serina as "bitchy" in a previous blog post, I meant it only in terms of being different to the rest of the cast. She is sarcastic and seemingly unsympathetic, and especially oblivious to the Forge-Anders relationship, but those are endearing traits. I just feel it very important that I clarify that, before I get accusations of misogyny. -- Administrator Specops306 - Qur'a 'Morhek Honour Light Your Way! 22:25, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Sometimes I love seeing all the irony in life. FPS video games target a clientele primarily composed of male persons. Whether these people are macho wannabes, gun crazy geeks, action loving gamers, geeks of many types, casual gamers, analytical gamers who dig plotlines and minutae, or who play for some other reason, the keyword is male.

So when the male human body goes into combat- even simulated,the adrenaline and testosterone spikes, Therefore anything having even a slight sex appeal can become much more attractive. Ergo, sexy female characters are created to help sell the game and or gameplay. This holds true for Cmdr. Keyes, Cortana, Serina; human and AI alike.

To promote this aspect the female characters are given amazing abilites. As the blog states, Miranda can dual wield a M6D and an M90. I know of ordinary people who break their wrists firing a .45 or .50 cal pistol with one hand, let alone an overpowered .50 M6D or an 8 gauge M90. Even the Master Chief's hands buck when he fires the shotgun.

This brings up the question, "Is this representing gender equality or not?" I say no, it does not. This glorification of heroines simply creates a stereotype that appeals to male emotions and tendencies. It tends to dehumanize women more rather than fill the gender gap. An example of perhaps a better heroine is Alyx Vance from the Half Life series.

On the flip side, one sees Serina and Cortana ripping into their male 'co-workers'. Sometimes this is justifiable, like when the Master Chief was about to light Installation 04. But in general this seems to be a feminist attack on authority. An AI is supposed to assist the captain of a ship or the battle suit's user, not boss them around. Even if the AI knows better than the human it is still supposed to treat its' maker with respect. To avoid this sort of mess it may have been better to make more AIs 'male' so the human's authority would not be seen as discrimination. For the record, I am for gender equality but anti-feminist.

Good job Kougermasters, you have hit a contested and perfectly valid point. Sarge-051.

These aren't AIs in the traditional sense of having been programmed to simulate human intelligence, though. These are posthumans, intelligences born from human minds. They are essentially evolved forms of people who have lived and developed personalities. As smart AIs are only made from really smart people, it makes sense that there'd be a bit of built-in arrogance. This is especially so in the case of Cortana, who was Dr. Halsey from her perspective in that she holds all of her memories up to a certain point.

As for the "anti-feminist" part, I do acknowledge that there are some sections of feminist movements that are overly extreme and not in-line with reality... Though I think the root of the general ideology is fundamentally a good one. If one defines "feminism" as, to sum up a lot of talking, "the radical notion that women are people", then I don't see how one can be for gender equality without simultaneously being pro-feminist. --Dragonclaws(talk) 06:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

What's sad is even Samus Aaron was essentially turned into a sex object; being reveled to be a blonde woman, the outcome from that stereotypical fact was really unavoidable. Another I'd point out is Elizabeth Swan from Pirates of the Caribbean, she was pretty cool, especially in that era, but like most also slightly discriminated. JustineI'm too cool to sparkle. That's what my sonic screwdriver's for. 08:43, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I've read criticisms that say the last part of PotC 3 with her having waited ten(?) years for Will to return in the green flash was a sexist cliche. --Dragonclaws(talk) 20:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Well that depends on how extreme you get. She was married to him and she also had a kid that was about 10 years old when he came back during the whole time as well. He didn't have to wait or come back for her either so it goes both ways. It's like men and women who are in the military and are sent there and back constantly for months at a time too. JustineI'm too cool to sparkle. That's what my sonic screwdriver's for. 20:15, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

When I said feminist, I referred to extreme feminism which rejects most all authority in the name of freedom for women. The concept of a woman being human isn't hard to understand. The difficult part is to live that concept. The general ideology is known as gender equality, but many people fail to differentiate between these people: the ones who have a grip on reality and those who do not. Sarge-051.

That would refer to the areas all bound up in Marxism. To quote Wikipedia: Feminism is the belief that women should have equal political, social, sexual, intellectual and economic rights to men. It involves various movements, theories, and philosophies, all concerned with issues of gender difference, that advocate equality for women and that campaign for women's rights and interests. Gender equality would be an overall subject, while feminism focuses specifically on the issues of women. If you look at the Wikipedia article, you can see the philosophies are very diverse with a lot of separate individual movements focusing on specific philosophical concepts. The radical feminists are certainly the most loud and noticeable, due to passionate beliefs not in-line with general society, but they are not the whole of the feminist movement. And now that I finished typing all that up, I realize I probably shouldn't have spent so much time arguing semantics... --Dragonclaws(talk) 19:51, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

This blog was originally supposed to be about Halo 3: ODST... Oh well :P —Kougermasters 21:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Well bringing up the sexist part/s/ of the game/books is pretty interesting. JustineI'm too cool to sparkle. That's what my sonic screwdriver's for. 21:32, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Ya, good point. But do you have any input on ODST? PS. Do u think im a good blog writer PPS. Im coming out with another blog soon, HINT: it has to do with Supreme Commanders and Minor Prophets —Kougermasters 23:27, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I am very sorry for misunderstanding the point and causing a wild tangent. I apologize. --Dragonclaws(talk) 00:30, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Granted, you did rant pretty heavily about sexism. --Dragonclaws(talk) 20:21, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
No, you got one of the points... What does tangent mean? I thought it was related to math. —Kougermasters 12:23, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Eh, I'm kinda done with Halo. I've really lost most if not all interest with it by now. So the game doesn't seem too appealing to me. JustineI'm too cool to sparkle. That's what my sonic screwdriver's for. 02:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Heresy! No offense intended, but why do you hang around a Halo wiki if you don't like Halo? —Kougermasters 12:23, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

A mathematical tangent is a line which will intersect with a circle at only one point. As a figure of speech "at or on a tangent" is an indirect way of approaching a subject or steering away from one.

To Church Reborn: Heresy! Infidel, Infidel! Sarge-051.

Well...I didn't say I didn't like it, I said I lost interest in it. It just came and went; it was good when it was in it's prime but now I think sometimes after this long it's a bit overrated (especially the multiplayer...). I came here like 2 years ago when I was into it and just stayed mostly because of the IRC; it really did give me something to do, if you lived where I do; it'd make sense. Another is well...having people call me a 'heretic' because I lost interest I don't really say aloud on site other stuff (way more than that) I'm into because apparently it makes be a 'fucking idiot and moron'. (not yelling at anyone here, just stating what's happened) I mainly commented because of the sexist part, it's fascinating to me how much was actually in the game when you think about it. JustineI'm too cool to sparkle. That's what my sonic screwdriver's for. 22:17, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
I was just kidding you know (in hurt voice). You like Pokėmon too? Pokėmon is awesome! —Kougermasters 00:26, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Regarding dual-wielding, I'm glad that they got rid of it for ODST. Any shooter knows that it is an incredibly wasteful and inaccurate method of firing. The "tough, male, battle-hardened Marines," that as they are, will know this, which is why they don't do it. Miranda did it because she was a Navy jack with no ground combat experience, was desperate to live up to dad's reputation, and probably thought it looked cool. Except it wasn't cool, you glory-obsessed bint, it got you killed.--The All-knowing Sith'ari 15:15, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually considering Cmdr. Keyes first used dual wielding with twin M7s it was probably a good idea. submachine guns are notoriously inaccurate and therefore waste ammunition. When fighting an elite the priority is to get as many rounds at the target as you can and beat down its' shields. I think it was Bungie who thought it looked cool and so gave her those weapons. On the other side of the story, the M7 was probably meant to be used by ODSTs and marines as an MP5 ( [] ). But I still think the dual wield option should be included in Halo:ODST for low powered weapons, albeit at reduced accuracy. Bungie's system of dual wielding after all, has become one of their trademarks after its' wildly successful introduction in Halo2. Sarge-051.

It doesn't matter how much we liked it, it was unrealistic and should never have been put in in the first place.--The All-knowing Sith'ari 16:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

That's...pretty much the point of video games. JustineI'm too cool to sparkle. That's what my sonic screwdriver's for. 22:16, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

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