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  • Dab1001
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    09:40, August 20, 2017

    How did the Flood board the UNSC Spirit of Fire if they were no where near a place that was infested and how was the flood not erradicated when Master Chief fired the Halo? When the Halo was fired it destroyed the Gravemind, and the Flood can't function without a Gravemind, right? And what happened to the crew? In the comic series it shows all the cryo pods open, with a lone infection form running by. Is everyone dead? Did they all escape? Didn't O'Neil make sure all the infected bodies were burned so they wouldn't turn into carrier forms? And in all the time that the Spirit of Fire was adrift, did that chick Serina become rampant? And what happened to that Anders chick? And if the ship was on a course for Earth, why are they on a collision couse with a planet? Why didn't they go into slipspace to get to Earth? Is this going to be another Mona Lisa? What do you think is the story here? Write your theories! I'd love to hear them!

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    • yank my quills another topic about the flood on the spirit of fire again already???

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    • i wasnt signed in when i made this article i just realized that whoops. just so everyone knows i posted this discussion while not signed in!

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    • ok :)

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    • XD

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    • To be plain and simple:

      It was done because 343i wants to shoehorn the flood back into the story.

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    • 73.169.28.13 wrote:
      Why didn't they go into slipspace to get to Earth?

      They detonated the slipspace drive to destroy the shield world, remember?

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    • Commando Trooper wrote:
      73.169.28.13 wrote:
      Why didn't they go into slipspace to get to Earth?
      They detonated the slipspace drive to destroy the shield world, remember?

      sry, its been a while since i last played Halo Wars XD

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    • The fate of Spirit of Fire vaires and could be argued...

      Some say it was infect by the hands of the Flood, others say it was attacked and destroyed from Covenant Forces, and several just say the Colony Ship is still floating around in space...determined to find their home worlds.

      But in my opinion, I think it was taken by Insurgents..I did some reasearch on Lord Hord and found something interesting in the last paragraph mentioning "Spirit of Fire's" vehicles, such as Vultures and Hawks used by Insurgents...

      Link: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Terrence_Hood

      I respect all of your opinions and your reasoning makes perfect sense. One thing that I know (and hope) that 343 will bring back the Spirit of Fire...new missions? Planets? Enemies? Depends on them...

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    • 73.169.28.13 wrote:
      When the Halo was fired it destroyed the Gravemind, and the Flood can't function without a Gravemind, right? 

      I think it might have been Halo: Escalation when it shows the gravemind still alive when John goes back to the Lesser Ark and they meet. Or am I wrong?

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    • Wha? How? More baseless retcon?

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    • There wes a large presence of flood on top of the SoF.Its posible that 1 infection form made it in

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    • T-Ray Armenta wrote:
      There wes a large presence of flood on top of the SoF.Its posible that 1 infection form made it in

      but forge and the spartans killed them all

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    • 73.169.28.13 wrote: How did the Flood board the UNSC Spirit of Fire?

      By having better pirating skills then the characters in mass effect.

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    • T-Ray Armenta wrote: There wes a large presence of flood on top of the SoF.Its posible that 1 infection form made it in

      so 343i is going the Aliens3 route?

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    • The flood can function without a gravemind. The gravemind acts as a leader for the flood, and lets the flood coordinate their efforts much better. without it, they lose their large scale coordination. its like killing an elite in a squad, when he's dead, the squad loses most of its coordination but it still functions. So there you have it.

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    • In canon with the elite dead everyone reverts to guessing what to do, reacting to what the enemy does, some bicker over who should take command, its almost as bad as expecting real life civilians to work as a team, but of corse, they do work as a team in the negative direction, with no effort, as if not even trying to get in the way of each others performance.

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    • The Flood could have been hiding in the ship some where where they're no one in the cryo pods.

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    • Or under their beds or in their closet

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    • "mommy a monster is under my bed"

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    • The crew of the Spirit was locked away in cryo, the flood they had discovered was kinda of a first contact with the current form of humanity, they didnt infect anybody on the Spirit so they would know nothing of the tech on the ship or how to use it. That should mean that even if the flood is on the ship, the crew are safe from infection, right? Which kind of leaves it open to possible reuse of the Spirit in later story.

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    • Yep, they are locked away in cryo pods. The flood have frozen dinner packets for their travel.

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    • Lord of the STARS wrote: Or under their beds or in their closet

      Yep. That monster under your bed isn't the Boogeyman or whatever. It is an Infection Form :)

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    • Dinosaur1995 wrote:
      To be plain and simple:

      It was done because 343i wants to shoehorn the flood back into the story.


      That's funny. 343i's haters have done nothing but complain that 343i haven't brought the Flood back in the new Halo games, whining that they don't like the new enemy faction (Prometheans), now you're complaining that they are bringing the Flood back.

      343i really can't do anything right by you people.

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    • LegoKidRAM wrote:

      The Halos don't kill the Flood, they kill the lifeforms the Flood can posess. Seriously, that's Halo 101.

      And no, the Flood don't need a Gravemind in order to function. You've seen the Flood function without a Gravemind numerous times in the series. The Flood start out as mindless beasts until they incorporate enough brain matter from other species that they develop sentience - that's when the Graveminds are created. Graveminds come after, not before.

      The Flood were 'wiped out' at the end of Halo 3 because all the Flood in the galaxy (seemingly) had gone to the Ark, which lies outside the galaxy. Master Chief fired a single Halo at this location wiping out all sentient life within 25,000 light years, keeping the rest of the galaxy safe because this Halo was too far away to activate the others. The Flood were then left stranded in this spot outside the galaxy with no means of getting back, so they were left to decay until all but dead.


      As for the Flood spore on the Spirit of Fire - I seem to remember that ENTIRE SHIP'S HULL was swarming with Flood at one part of the game, and you had to fight them off to prevent them getting into the ship. Obviously we weren't completely succesful, and a single lone Flood spore made it on board - I really don't get why people have such difficulty with this, it seems perfectly logical to me :/. Is it really beyond the bounds of reason that a Flood spore managed to get on board the Spirity of Fire when the ship's outer hull was swarming with Flood?

      And empty cryo pods - maybe the ship has more cryo pods than crew members? And the empty ones you're seeing are just the superfluous, unoccupied ones? Would be kind of retarded to make a ship with JUST enough cryo pods for the designated crew. In fact, didn't half the Spirit of Fire's crew die in Halo Wars? There you go, empty cryo pods.

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    • Good job on posting on a dead thread.

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    • Maiden Ty One wrote:
      LegoKidRAM wrote:
      The Halos don't kill the Flood, they kill the lifeforms the Flood can posess. Seriously, that's Halo 101.

      And no, the Flood don't need a Gravemind in order to function. You've seen the Flood function without a Gravemind numerous times in the series. The Flood start out as mindless beasts until they incorporate enough brain matter from other species that they develop sentience - that's when the Graveminds are created. Graveminds come after, not before.

      The Flood were 'wiped out' at the end of Halo 3 because all the Flood in the galaxy (seemingly) had gone to the Ark, which lies outside the galaxy. Master Chief fired a single Halo at this location wiping out all sentient life within 25,000 light years, keeping the rest of the galaxy safe because this Halo was too far away to activate the others. The Flood were then left stranded in this spot outside the galaxy with no means of getting back, so they were left to decay until all but dead.


      As for the Flood spore on the Spirit of Fire - I seem to remember that ENTIRE SHIP'S HULL was swarming with Flood at one part of the game, and you had to fight them off to prevent them getting into the ship. Obviously we weren't completely succesful, and a single lone Flood spore made it on board - I really don't get why people have such difficulty with this, it seems perfectly logical to me :/. Is it really beyond the bounds of reason that a Flood spore managed to get on board the Spirity of Fire when the ship's outer hull was swarming with Flood?

      And empty cryo pods - maybe the ship has more cryo pods than crew members? And the empty ones you're seeing are just the superfluous, unoccupied ones? Would be kind of retarded to make a ship with JUST enough cryo pods for the designated crew. In fact, didn't half the Spirit of Fire's crew die in Halo Wars? There you go, empty cryo pods.


      But the flood looks recent when you compare it to High Charity which, I think, took days or weeks to look the way it did ( Then again, it did have a Gravemind).

      And what about the screen flashing 'ABANDON SHIP', I think that kinda explains the empty pods.

      I also thought the flood was also killed by the Halos, but I may be missing something.

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    • ReDquinox wrote:
      Good job on posting on a dead thread.

      I'm sorry, but once more can't you un-follow a thread?

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    • Okay forget about the flood being killed by the halos

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    • LoZza117 wrote:
      Okay forget about the flood being killed by the halos


      No problem, Halo can get quite confusing with its 10,000,000 year lore. ;)


      I was wrong about the Flood at the Ark being 'left to decay and die' without hosts - apparently the Halo blast the Master Chief fired did kill the Flood there as well, but only because the Halo exploded after firing due to it being unfinished.

      So the actual 'wave' the Halo's create that wipe out life don't kill Flood, but on that one occasion the individual Halo's explosion did.

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    • ReDquinox wrote:
      Good job on posting on a dead thread.

      Thanks, I thought it would be helpful to others seen as how this is a WIKI and not a message board, glad to know you appreciated it. :)

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    • Right now, you're at a forum, where threads die off and become irrelevant. You posted on one that had long since been forgotten.

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    • Maiden Ty One wrote:
      LoZza117 wrote:
      Okay forget about the flood being killed by the halos

      No problem, Halo can get quite confusing with its 10,000,000 year lore. ;)


      I was wrong about the Flood at the Ark being 'left to decay and die' without hosts - apparently the Halo blast the Master Chief fired did kill the Flood there as well, but only because the Halo exploded after firing due to it being unfinished.

      So the actual 'wave' the Halo's create that wipe out life don't kill Flood, but on that one occasion the individual Halo's explosion did.


      Yeah its confusing when you have one thing saying it kills the Floods food source and an anime were it shows the Flood getting decimated by the halos

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    • Halo legends isn't cannon...

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    • Unfortunately.... I thinks it's great if they bring back the flood, spice up the story a little bit, I might be a little bias but the flood were my favorite faction they were creepy and scary at times and made me WANT more as for the S.O.F. I agree with the whole there were a lot on top of the ship. Besides... Did you really think you could kill of the flood? Ha! Were it so easy

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    • 96.32.175.9 wrote:
      Halo legends isn't cannon...

      Some of it is, some of it isnt.

      And yes, I knew this wasn't the last of the flood.

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    • LoZza117 wrote:
      96.32.175.9 wrote:
      Halo legends isn't cannon...
      Some of it is, some of it isnt.

      And yes, I knew this wasn't the last of the flood.

      actually I don't think its canon at all

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    • MenacePotatoe wrote:
      LoZza117 wrote:
      96.32.175.9 wrote:
      Halo legends isn't cannon...
      Some of it is, some of it isnt.

      And yes, I knew this wasn't the last of the flood.

      actually I don't think its canon at all

      actually all of it is, all except "Odd One Out"

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    • Spartan-1337 is non-canon

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    • thats what i just said. lol

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    • LegoKidRAM wrote:
      thats what i just said. lol

      oh sorry

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    • Sorry I don't have any sort of account folks, but if you read the wiki page about the Spirit of Fire. You would find that if you can recall correctly, despite all the flood countermeasures taken on the ship, they still were able to board it. The Spirit went into the Flood infested shieldworld, and you never exactly know if they boarded one of the final evacuation pelicans as it was leaving.

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    • Well a couple of things could've happened

      1. As was mentioned above that the countermeasures didnt work.

      2. They successfully neutrelised the flood on the ship but the flood were somehow able to get onto the ship.

      From looking a the comic, I would say its the latter ( and I probably mentioned this already) because of the state of the ship. Its not like High Charity infection and it became this large mushroom of biomass. It still looks reasonably uninfected.

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    • They farted so hard it breached a hole in the ships hull then they waited for the air to leak out of the ship and walked in.

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    • Wait, who farted??

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    • Serial number 73.169.28.13 wrote: How did the Flood board the UNSC Spirit of Fire?

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    • Lord of the STARS wrote:

      Serial number 73.169.28.13 wrote: How did the Flood board the UNSC Spirit of Fire?

      Well... thats one way of getting in.

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    • But how can the Flood produce methane???

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    • weal they are rotting corpses, and as rotting corpses decompose bacteria feed and it produces methane.

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    • Well it probably depends on what species they consume

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    • To be fair, going back to what was said about the massive amount of flood that was present on top of the ship when the SoF is pulled into the shield world. yes, there was a large infection present on top of the ship at that time. However, if you follow the Dialogue from the Forerunner AI during the mission, SoF goes through a "Decontamination Sequence" triggering the "ring" that kills off the flood on top of the ship. Therefor, this rules out the theory of a flood form being able to board the ship that way, as the mission doesnt end until the hull is completely clear. Which also means following this logic, that the "decontamination sequence" wouldnt end until the AI picked up no flood forms on the ship. 


      My thoughts on the Fate of SoF is most probably that it was destroyed by Covenant Forces and then the wrecked hull freely floating in space was come accross by the flood. As like said though the cryo pods are open, it also says "Abandon Ship" on the screen. Therefor, the crew could have abandoned ship and either been killed or captured. Because it was floating in free space and because the Prophet of Regret obviously knew the location of the Shield world, he could have tracked down and destroyed the SoF. 

      Obviously this is just a theory but it would be great to see everyones opinions/expand further on this idea!

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    • Geeeeez this thread just keeps going

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    • just like leprosy in the usa.

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    • What?

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    • Yep I noticed the decontamination sequence thingie. Although I doubt they had time when they were fleeing the planet.

      And yes, until the game comes out we will keep talking about this for a long, LONG time.

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    • Looking through, it is kinda the same thing over and over

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    • [Spoiler Warning for Halo Escalation 6 and Halo Wars 2]



      A flood form is shown on the UNSC Spirit of Fire at the end of Halo Escalation 6. There is a "ABANDON SHIP" warning and empty cryo pods and a star system in the background. The ark is shown in the media that has been released so far for Halo Wars 2 when the UNSC Spirit of Fire's crew is awaken. This makes me believe that the flood could possible make a return atleast in Halo Wars 2.

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    • Or the DLCs

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    • Some of the flood survived the cleansing when the spirit of fire was clensed in that one mission. That flood infector waited for the right moment to infect and boom the flood started spreading.

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    • well remeber the first level you encounterd the flood? forge he might have some of the infection in him plus the elephants you save could have a molecule or more on them so thats my theory

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    • how could the crew of spirit of fire awake? all of them even captian cutter hes friggin frozen do you guys know the cutscene where it a infected marine comeout the leel where you encounter the flood the ODST could have been infected a litte waht do you think?

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    • Well actually the aI aboard the ship awakens them then they find the banished as said in the wiki of halo wars captain cuttner wiki. I don't know If the aI could of awakens them or the pods locks broke and they awaken. And 1 flood infection form can't infect a human 3 only can and yea all the pods were open cause A they could left before the flood came and the player in the game or b yes half the crew were killed and there is pods for the entire crew so half of the pods were empty cause half the crew died. It's my option post if I'm correct or not and last thing the flood on the ship was the last of them actually. And 1 more thing all the crew did escape do to the fact that there is a glitch in the game I found that there is a computer with a log the was made 5 hours ago which tells you how the flood got to the ship and how they escaped and avoided the flood while leaving the ship so the flood don't catch a ride on there escape ship they were using and they could of used the construction ship they used to build the fire bases they could of used that to escape just saying

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    • I'm ballistic gaming by the way

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    • The aIs name is Sedona by the way

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    • Typo it's serina

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    • what I read a wiki and serina went offline so I think Isabel did

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    • Some one plz respond

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    • And forge did not die cause I did a mega search and I found something which says he is alive do to the fact that the shield world which we all now has forrunner stuff all over the planet that forge went at the last part of the game was a teleported that did lead to the sun also it takes you to a different planet so he could of went to a planet with covanet on it or forrunner on it or the banish or human or some where in the galaxy he can be any where we just don't know where. And how could the spirit of fire be drifting in space if they were on a course for earth did the engines went offline or run out of power they don't tell they just say it's drifting in space

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    • Lord of stars im not a YouTuber

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    • And really a cricket sound this is a article about the spirit of fire not a bug wiki

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    • K

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    • Does everybody agree or not about the things I been sending respond now plz

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    • No one really cares

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    • People care dude it's your opinion that's people don't care not are's and people want to know what happened to the spirit of fire it's even people want to know so I'm telling them so they do care

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    • So keep your comment to your self

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    • People don't care, that's why this thread died months before you came barging in here.

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    • Not to worry, he will figure it out after the next 6 months of no one replying hear. Assuming some weed doesn't look up the spirit of fire on google and this thread is at the very top of the search engine list. Its been confirmed that's how people even find these threads.

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    • Hay fuck off leave him be he does not need this shit from you fucking assholes and by the way he didn't barg in its a free Wikipedia for people to type on what to the ship so stop judging him or I will banned you from the Wikipedia website he can type what ever he wants so stop being rude or don't comment on anything got nothing nice to say don't say it at all oh and the wiki didn't die months ago a lot of people been on this so don't think people haven't been on hear you don't know they haven't so I wouldn't be speaking and its your opinion that it died months ago so fuck off bitches

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    • God so many rude people

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    • Lord of stars,ReDquinoa shut up it didn't die months ago people still do still go on here you don't know cause your a fucking idiot so leave the kid alone or I will ban you from the Wikipedia website so don't be smart asses

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    • 1. You don't even know what you're talking about

      2. I highly doubt you have moderator privileges on Wikipedia

      3. Even if someone as immature as you somehow had mod privileges on Wikipedia, you don't even know my IP. You couldn't ban me if you tried.

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    • Red, let him be. He's the super saiyan, he'll just pwn you if you go near him.

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    • I hate when they don't log in and act stupid just to anger someone into giving them an excuse to misuse their power.

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    • So that new HW2 DLC trailer, huh guys?

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    • Huh?

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      09:40, August 20, 2017
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