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    15:09, October 6, 2016

    As you'll no doubt have heard, being a Halo wiki member (and probably Halo fan), what is undoubtedly the best Halo game so far and one of the best compilations in gaming history is releasing this year: Halo: The Master Chief Collection!

    In it, Halo 2 is getting the anniversary treatment; a full remastering of the campaign, 6 classic multiplayer map remakes, reimagained music, and re-recorded sound effects. This comes only 3 years after Halo: CEA. For me at least, this is ample proof of anniversary editions of at least the original trilogy.*

    Before many people say that it doesn't need it, yes it does. Firstly, it runs at 1152×640, not even HD (about 640p rather than 720/1080p). Additionally, the models have very few polygons (look at Johnson's head in the second cutscene in the level Halo, and the marines in the final cutscene) and many of the textures, while very detailed, are very bland - predominantely a single colour. Finally, some of the lighting doesn't really work (most obvious in places in the final warthog run).

    However, the Master Chief Collection contains Halo 3 at 60FPS, 1080p, and with improved lighting. This will (hopefully) fix two of the four major graphical problems with the game, although it will make the low poly-count models more obvious. This leads me to the question, what will 343 do to make people buy Halo 3: Anniversary, when they could get the non-remastered version of it, plus 3 other games in TMCC?

    They could do more remade maps, include extra content such as firefight, or add another campaign (e.g. a campaign as an elite, or ODST's campaign remastered), but what would you want them to do in Halo 3: Anniversary to make it worth the purchase?

    USER Dab1001 Avatar Dab1001 (messageblogscontributions) UNSC Emblem 16:43, September 21, 2014 (UTC)

    PS: *If you still don't believe me, think about it this way: Halo is a yearly release now. TMCC this year, H5G next. H6 will take 3 years to develop - H6 will be 2018. That leaves two empty years. 2016 will probably be Halo Wars 2, which leaves the easiest option for 2017 as Halo 3: Anniversary.

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    • In my opinion, 343 shouldn't make a Halo 3: Anniversary. Halo 3's graphics are still amazing in 2014 (except for the marines' faces).

      And honestly, I don't want anymore remakes.

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    • I wouldn't mind the polygon count to rise.  It is for the x box 1 after all. 

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    • Commando Trooper wrote: In my opinion, 343 shouldn't make a Halo 3: Anniversary. Halo 3's graphics are still amazing in 2014 (except for the marines' faces).

      And honestly, I don't want anymore remakes.

      It'll probably still happen though, and if/when it does, what would you want it to have, seeing as TMCC raised the bar for Halo remakes?

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    • Halo 3 ODST's campaign and firefight modes as a DLC.

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    • Commando Trooper wrote:
      Halo 3 ODST's campaign and firefight modes as a DLC.

      It'd be good. I just wish they'd make a follow up for ODST. Or an ODST anniversary, that'd be cool!

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    • I'm still waiting for Halo Reach anniversary in 2020!

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    • I doubt there'll be one. Reach wasn't as popular as Halo 1-3, unfortunately.

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    • Eventually there will be the "Halo: The Spin-Off Collection" which it'll contain Halo 3: ODST, Halo Wars, and Halo: Reach with TMCC-like remastering and running in 1152x640 but won't be around until during the lifeline of the Xbox One.

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    • Dab1001 wrote:
      I doubt there'll be one. Reach wasn't as popular as Halo 1-3, unfortunately.

      Yeah.  :(

      Reach's Custom Games were great.

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    • Agreed. The rest though? Sub-par, by the Halo series' standards.

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    • 216.80.140.168 wrote:
      Eventually there will be the "Halo: The Spin-Off Collection" which it'll contain Halo 3: ODST, Halo Wars, and Halo: Reach with TMCC-like remastering and running in 1152x640 but won't be around until during the lifeline of the Xbox One.

      1152x640? I'd hope not... That's lower than Halo 3's resolution. I'd prefer 1440p (2k), if the Xbox One can handle it (which it should be able to).

      As for the spin off collection, it'd be nice, but I doubt it would happen 'cause of the differences in gameplay between Halo Wars and the other two, as well as the fact those games will be over 15 years old by the end of the Xbox One's lifespan.

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    • Reach is life, brothers! XD

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    • I agree with Trol Lolamee'. But, as Dab1001 said,  they might as well make a "Halo: The Spinoff Collection".

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    • No, stop them from ruing MORE of the classic halo experience.

      Original graphics for life!

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    • Personally, I love the H2A graphics. CEA not as much, but I still like them.

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    • Speak for yourself.

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    • Awoo0134 wrote:

      I agree with Trol Lolamee'. But, as Dab1001 said,  they might as well make a "Halo: The Spinoff Collection".

      The point is rather mute now, given that ODST is coming to TMCC.

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    • Hm....

      How about a cheap add on to TMCC?

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    • I'd happily buy 1080p@60fps Halo: Reach as DLC for TMCC.

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    • Meh.

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    • Meh

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    • Dab1001 wrote:
      I doubt there'll be one. Reach wasn't as popular as Halo 1-3, unfortunately.

      Reach: over 10 million units sold. That is more popular than Halo 2 which sold over 8 million. The generation that grew up playing the Halo games as kids then capped into real gamers at the end of 3 then into Reach is slowly working its way into the majority.  I don't think there will be a Reach aniversary, but it will not be because it was not as popular.  I think the aniversary series will die out with ODST at the latest though because it will become a bland money making gimick. I know 343 doesn't want that to happen to the series they adore so deeply.

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    • If they adored it they wouldn't kill of the characters we all love!

      R.I.P. rookie.

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    • 198.102.159.131 wrote:

      Dab1001 wrote:
      I doubt there'll be one. Reach wasn't as popular as Halo 1-3, unfortunately.

      Reach: over 10 million units sold. That is more popular than Halo 2 which sold over 8 million.

      Sales do not show popularity, multiplayer population does. A game can be over hyped, and bought by loads (e.g. Destiny) and turn out to be crap and unpopular. Meanwhile, how long the multiplayer population lasts shows its true popularity, and guess what, no Halo game has had a population lasting longer than Halo 2's.

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    • How about the campaign? Spartans are jerks....

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    • What does "Spartans are jerks" have to do with the campaign?

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    • Vessel Of War wrote:

      What does "Spartans are jerks" have to do with the campaign?

      I think he's referring to how in multiplayer, SPARTANs try to kill you practically all the time.

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    • Trol Lolamee' wrote:

      How about the campaign? Spartans are jerks....

      The question is mute since everybody knows Halo 3 had the best campaign.

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    • I found threes campain to be lacking compared to halo 2

      No arbiter missions

      No banshee dogfights

      Snubbed kig yar snipers

      No super cool boss battles

      No mousilieum battle.

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    • Dab1001 wrote: Sales do not show popularity, multiplayer population does. A game can be over hyped, and bought by loads (e.g. Destiny) and turn out to be crap and unpopular. Meanwhile, how long the multiplayer population lasts shows its true popularity, and guess what, no Halo game has had a population lasting longer than Halo 2's.

      They wouldn't care if you bought the game and never took it out of it's packaging, all they're bothered about is the amount of money they can make. Which is the number of sales. Destiny made buckets of cash from pre-orders alone. Though I'm sure the general reaction of "meh, kinda grindy" just breaks Bungie's collective heart, if everyone stopped playing it right this second do you think they'd go "oh, I guess there's no point in making Destiny 2, because it wasn't very popular." How many pre-orders for the Super-Deluxe Legendary Edition exclusively from Amazon - the PS4 version with a special swanky hat that those losers on Xbox will miss out on - do you think will happen?

      Or how about this, your opinion might be that the CoD franchise is terribad, but to call it unpopular seems like a misnomer. It makes stupid money but they don't have long lives and as long as they continue to make stupid money why would they change? They don't actually care how good it is. The only way they measure "popularity" is "how much money has it made us?"

      I agree with you that Reach won't get an Anniversary BTW, but because it's a spin-off combined with a lack of overwhelming "need" for it.

      As to the actual topic... I'm gonna need another post...

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    • I'd be very unlikely to buy Halo 3 Anniversary on it's own, unless I saw it on sale super-cheap or something. Maybe. I found it rather disappointing the first time around. How could they entice me, make me change my mind? Don't make it a simple graphical overhaul, go into full-on remake mode. I know I know, blasphemy! It goes against the spirit of the Anniversary... "series," I guess is the word we're using. The disk can still include a "pure" Halo 3 that's pretty much just what the MCC one is, with sharper HD textures or whatever for the purists to play. I'm thinking of a remake more in line with 'Silent Cartographer: Evolved,' with all the assets scratch-built, some new or expanded areas and taking bits from across the franchise into account. I'd also like enemies to be given as much focus as allies. Look at the Army Troopers in Reach, all the variety in faces, skin tones, camo, backpacks, headgear, insignia, friggin' names... and so on and so forth.

      For example, Jackals. First off, 90% or so of them that you encounter are the traditional 'Bungie' Jackal, but the rest are the 'Halo 4'-style. Hell, maybe add in another breed or two, may as well at this point. So long as they're interchangeable to gameplay and Bungie-types are massively dominant. I mean, remember when they looked like this? Make sure each breed has a few different skin tones and mix up their quill things while we're at it. Maybe some individuals have more than others, maybe some breeds have ones with a softer and more feathery appearance and I'm sure there's a few different colours as well. We're not even onto the gear yet. Stuff that clearly delineates their role and rank and stays consistent - Snipers have glowing headsets and Majors have a different shield colour. But what about smaller things, like belts, webbing, backpacks?

      How about markings, denoting different mercenary collectives? All the first level guys are one group that were assigned to the area. 'Crow's Nest' includes two groups, the ones from before plus another one that's reinforcing them for the attack. At the start of 'Tsavo Highway' it's the same two groups but move away from the immediate area and all the rest are a different, third group. The first group is seen again guarding one of the towers on 'The Covenant.' One of the larger groups have Forerunner symbols, to indicate they're there for the religion and not money. The sniper helmets, that have no function other than to glow so the player knows where to shoot, have been constantly redesigned game-to-game. Perhaps two groups uses Halo 3-style of headgear and another group uses Reach style and so on. Note that there would absolutely be no gameplay difference between the groups, it's just visual stuff.

      That's a massive TL;DR section for just the visual appearance of one enemy. I didn't even get into Skirmishers. I'm not saying I'm hard to please, but that's the kind of attention to detail that would make me fawn all over it. It still wouldn't be enough in itself to make me buy it. You'd need new content. I mentioned 'Silent Cartographer: Evolved,' which would be a bit too extreme to do every level to that extent, but the essence of it? Branching paths, new areas and so on. Weapons... you've got two options. Either be very selective, choosing weapons via their role and not having unnecessary ones... or go nuts and chuck in as many as you can. I could go either way really. I do like the idea of having loadouts at the start of a level, with a few unique versions of regular weapons. If you go with the "all weapons ever" option, then you may as well throw a couple of other new ones as well, such as a proper Covvie HMG to replace all those detached turrets that Chieftains use.

      I would definitely have perked up at this point. I mentioned somewhere before, I would have liked an Arbiter-focused DLC that shows a little adventure with him getting to Earth. I would love that. So much. For bonus points, you could include extra variety. For example, a snow level on Delta Halo with the Jackals wearing a bodysuit exposing less skin under their armour, gloves and different boots.

      Other gameplay mechanical stuff I'm not so sure about. Things like 'Armour Abilities vs Equipment' or the new stuff you can do in Halo 5. That seems like I should have given it a higher priority, but really it'd require testing different stuff out to see what works best. Perhaps using all this new stuff they can quickly pump out a remastered version of ODST and Reach as DLC. Apart from remaking the levels and Power Armour-less Brutes for Reach, everything else should already be done really. I know, that's no small job, but comparatively speaking...

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    • More likely is that Halo 3 Anniversary will be DLC for MCC or Halo 5 or something. If they do it at all, which is a bit doubtful.

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    • 86.29.7.17 wrote:

      More likely is that Halo 3 Anniversary will be DLC for MCC or Halo 5 or something. If they do it at all, which is a bit doubtful.

      As you said yourself, Microsoft care most about money. Why would they make a DLC they could charge £40 for it by making it a game? Halo 3: Anniversary will end up being a standalone game, I assure you.

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    • 86.29.7.17 wrote:

      Dab1001 wrote: Sales do not show popularity, multiplayer population does. A game can be over hyped, and bought by loads (e.g. Destiny) and turn out to be crap and unpopular. Meanwhile, how long the multiplayer population lasts shows its true popularity, and guess what, no Halo game has had a population lasting longer than Halo 2's.

      They wouldn't care if you bought the game and never took it out of it's packaging, all they're bothered about is the amount of money they can make.

      Doesn't change the fact that sales don't represent popularity.

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    • Dab1001 wrote:

      Trol Lolamee' wrote:

      How about the campaign? Spartans are jerks....

      The question is mute since everybody knows Halo 3 had the best campaign.

      This really confused me, but the word is moot.

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    • Is it? Didn't know that lol. What an odd word...

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    • Dinosaur1995 wrote:

      I found threes campain to be lacking compared to halo 2

      No arbiter missions

      No banshee dogfights

      Snubbed kig yar snipers

      No super cool boss battles

      No mousilieum battle.

      I always found Halo 2's campaign to be the most lacking in the trilogy. No awesome warthog runs like CE or 3, no non-scripted Scarab battles, no dedicated sniping sections, annoying cliffhanger ending, etc. That's not to say I think it's bad, just that I think it's not as good as the rest in the trilogy.

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    • We all have our opinions.

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    • Yep.

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    • Dab1001 wrote:
      Is it? Didn't know that lol. What an odd word...

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kP2fBXRqYg&t=16m51s

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    • Coolbuddy379 wrote: Yep.

      What's your favorite of the classic trilogy, btw?

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    • 3.

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    • I see...

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    • Dab1001 wrote: As you said yourself, Microsoft care most about money. Why would they make a DLC they could charge £40 for it by making it a game? Halo 3: Anniversary will end up being a standalone game, I assure you.

      Depends on how much attention they decide to give it. There's plenty of stuff unique to Halo 3 (eg Power Armour Brutes, some weapons and vehicles, Flood stuff) that would need to be done from scratch up to H5 standard. Some stuff could come from H2A or games made in between, sure, but (for example) the Reach-Grunt would be a little dated by then and the H5-Grunt might be unusable for the same reasons the H4 ones are. Many human weapons are too different in style to reuse. More work. Also, H2A was enormously in demand from what I gather. I have no idea if people really want to see the H3 campaign that badly; a standalone H3A's multiplayer would probably just be H5's, like it was with H1A.

      If some cost-benefit-analysis-type-thing somewhere says that demand is low and work is much, they could try and sell DLC H3A to the fans by integrating it into all of MCC's many modes and stuff. I remember some video where the chaps were banging on about how great having it all on one interface was or whatever. At the same time they'd get away with half-arsing it a little bit more than a standalone, as it would only need to be up the standard of MCC and not Halo 5 or 6 or whatever.

      I guess I don't think it's more likely, I just wouldn't be at all surprised if they do something like that. Again, if at all. Perhaps they have other spin-off games in mind to keep the devs busy. Is there a massive clamouring of fans gushing over wanting H3A?

      Besides, DLC doesn't have to be cheap. I dunno, twenty quid?

      Dab1001 wrote: Doesn't change the fact that sales don't represent popularity.

      It's one way of measuring it. The size and longevity of multiplayer population isn't the only way, or else Mass Effect 1, Bioshock 1, Arkham Asylum (off the top of my head) would all have a "true popularity" of zero. Y'know, from their total lack of multiplayer (alright alright, Arkham had leaderboards for it's Challenge Maps, but that doesn't really count). All had critical acclaim and sold really well. They don't care how much I played those games (a lot), just like they don't care how much I played Halo 2 (a lot). I've played 270 hours of Left for Dead 2. I've played maybe a half-dozen online games. I don't care about multiplayer at all, but I will play the crap out of a game I like. I'm becoming tangential again. The first sentence of this paragraph is really all I needed to say.

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    • I still think that Microsoft would rather charge £40 for a game than £20 for a game's worth of DLC. As for the popularity, obviously it doesn't apply to non-multiplayer games. It is just the easiest way of gauging the popularity of some games.

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    • Course they would. They'd probably like to charge more than that. Just depends on if they think they can get away with it really. They could still half-arse it and put it out as a full game. Seems like a dick move, so yeah, they might well do that.

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    • Dab1001 wrote:

      Vessel Of War wrote:

      What does "Spartans are jerks" have to do with the campaign?

      I think he's referring to how in multiplayer, SPARTANs try to kill you practically all the time.

      I was referring to DAB not including those without XBL playing campaign. The story's important, yo.

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    • I know that way of measuring isn't perfect, but it is better than simply using sales, as proven by Destiny.

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    • Dinosaur1995 wrote:

      What's your favorite of the classic trilogy, btw?

      If you say all the games, then it would be Reach.

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    • Coolbuddy379 wrote:

      Dinosaur1995 wrote:

      What's your favorite of the classic trilogy, btw?

      If you say all the games, then it would be Reach.

      You need to get out more, in terms of Halo, then. Once you've played them all, you'll find that you prefer one of the trilogy, even if you started with Reach, I guarantee it. It happened to me.

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    • Me too.

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    • Dammit, I'm getting tired of Brenton's stupidity. Insulting me, ignoring the canon hierarchy, and just being a general idiot. I may have started the argument, but at least I'm arguing properly, and not resorting to rudeness and ignorance...

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    • Triplekudos to all three posts above. I started with Reach, but then fell in love with 3.

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    • Dab1001 wrote: Dammit, I'm getting tired of Brenton's stupidity. Insulting me, ignoring the canon hierarchy, and just being a general idiot. I may have started the argument, but at least I'm arguing properly, and not resorting to rudeness and ignorance...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y2SIIeqy34

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    • Dab1001 wrote: I know that way of measuring isn't perfect, but it is better than simply using sales, as proven by Destiny.

      Destiny sold good because it is good, duh! :)

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    • Dinosaur1995 wrote:

      Dab1001 wrote: I know that way of measuring isn't perfect, but it is better than simply using sales, as proven by Destiny.

      Destiny sold good because it is good, duh! :)

      http://www.quickmeme.com/img/e6/e6a3c2700dd96447c0ff5e276c2c8bd6ecf8449596b9fa8206292549e3d78363.jpg

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    • Tha was an honest opinion. :)

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    • Dino, you're missing the point. Brenton thinks that Halo 4 is the best Halo game. Better than the trilogy, even. The canonical correctness of Reach is a discussion for another time.

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    • Brenton239 wrote:

      (notice how im being calm here because i couldn't frankly care less what you think of the most epic halo EVER!!!)

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    • please you 2 knock it off, if your going to mate do it the way normal people do it, behind a locked door with 2 guards armed with focus rifles with baunets incase unggoy try to come in.

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    • Dab1001 wrote: Dino, you're missing the point. Brenton thinks that Halo 4 is the best Halo game. Better than the trilogy, even. The canonical correctness of Reach is a discussion for another time.

      Oh, well then. Brenton is going down.

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    • I'm not kidding, those unggoy will try to get in, and then you will have to chase them out with a laser cutter.

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    • Dab1001 wrote:
      Dino, you're missing the point. Brenton thinks that Halo 4 is the best Halo game. Better than the trilogy, even. The canonical correctness of Reach is a discussion for another time.

      Who is Brenton?

      EDIT: Nevermind, found out. A user whom I met long ago.

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    • This snobby little kid who thinks halo 4 is the bestest thing ever. He has a temper and rants when you prove him wrong.

      He's so fun to mess with :D

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    • I met him on a thread discussing why there should be a Destiny page here on Halo Nation. First I was with him then later I changed sides with 1hs444 and Karl.

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    • Lord of the STARS wrote:

      OH MY GOD !!!!!!!

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    • what? I miss the thread that magically disappeared. And now you just immortalized a photo mistake.

      Better.

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    • On Aquamarine they eat fish, didn't you know that? I was messing around and then cleaning up.

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    • Dab1001 wrote: As you said yourself, Microsoft care most about money. Why would they make a DLC they could charge £40 for it by making it a game? Halo 3: Anniversary will end up being a standalone game, I assure you.

      If that was the case, then Halo 2: Anniversary would also be standalone.

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    • I will warn you, I just as easily could have done this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5kWl9zV1Qk

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    • Coolbuddy379 wrote: I met him on a thread discussing why there should be a Destiny page here on Halo Nation. First I was with him then later I changed sides with 1hs444 and Karl.

      He's rather unreasonable, huh?

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    • Zeta1127,89thLegion wrote:

      Dab1001 wrote:

      As you said yourself, Microsoft care most about money. Why would they make a DLC they could charge £40 for it by making it a game? Halo 3: Anniversary will end up being a standalone game, I assure you.

      If that was the case, then Halo 2: Anniversary would also be standalone.

      There is more money to be made from a single disk including 4 games than a single disk including one, but they can't play that gambit again, because nobody would by Halo: The Master Chief Collection 2.

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    • Especially after its mess of a multiplayer.

      ...still searching for a match...

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    • I've always found it odd - I've never had trouble finding games in TMCC. In fact, I was able to get the Bite The Hand achievement on the day it was released...

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    • Hmmm....

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    • Dab1001 wrote: I've always found it odd - I've never had trouble finding games in TMCC. In fact, I was able to get the Bite The Hand achievement on the day it was released...

      I got the bite the hand achievement once, that's how I got this scar.

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    • You would be surprised how many post war earth dogs do not like Kig-yar, what did we ever do to them?

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    • What is the Bite the Hand achievement awarded for?

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    • Killing someone from 343i in matchmaking, or killing someone else with the achievement.

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    • Considering I got it on the day it came out, I most likely killed a 343i employee.

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    • Dab1001 wrote: Killing someone from 343i in matchmaking, or killing someone else with the achievement.

      lol, they literally only have their own profiles just to make a achievement ;) :)  :D I saloot a fellow clever people.

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    • You mean, they can be killed?

      What is their weakness? Fire? Holy water? Man not of woman born?

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    • Oh dear, first Karen Traviss, and now Troy Denning, Halo is dead.

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    • But, I thought troy was destroyed by invaders.

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    • Zeta1127,89thLegion wrote: Oh dear, first Karen Traviss, and now Troy Denning, Halo is dead.

      Oh no... that doesn't sound good. Who is he, and why should I be worried?

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    • halo, dead? that's up to us to decide now isn't it? now hear is what you do, using hunter shield mettle build a ship 4854ft from bow to stern, and 685ft wide. Give it a sest pool, showers, a video game and movie room, a snack bar, windows made of diamonds harvested from terrestrial giants, a forerunner dreadnaught powered engine, and put onboard 177 male and female of every sentient being in the galaxy. The world will then flood with news of halo's destruction, and when it dose, we will be safe on that ship :) climbing rock walls and singing carioca. Halo will live on.

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    • Denning is the author who almost singlehandedly ruined the potential of the post-NJO in Star Wars. Traviss was also involved in the post-NJO. I would be worried about Denning getting his hands on the Forerunners, especially the Didact, and the Mantle of Responsibility, or even worse, the Precursors.

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    • That's not good... The title 'Last Light' suggests the Precursors, at least to me...

      Still, I'm happy to have Staten back writing for Halo.

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    • And Denning is also rather gratuitous when it comes to gore.

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    • Well, we can only hope he doesn't do anything too bad with the lore...

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    • Hmm. Will this "Denning" write the new New Blood?

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    • Zeta1127,89thLegion wrote: Denning is the author who almost singlehandedly ruined the potential of the post-NJO in Star Wars. Traviss was also involved in the post-NJO. I would be worried about Denning getting his hands on the Forerunners, especially the Didact, and the Mantle of Responsibility, or even worse, the Precursors.

      You know..... you say a lot of, words, and, I'm not entirely sure......

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    • And last but not least, Denning likes writing about bugs.

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    • Zeta1127,89thLegion wrote: And last but not least, Denning likes writing about bugs.

      You mean like yanm'es, or like star troopers?

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    • Thanks for correcting my sloppy writing, Zeta. I should've double checked...

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    • I try, I really do.

      The Yanme'e or Drones would definitely be something Denning would gravitate towards.

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    • I'm ready, for queen and colony! Buzzzbuuzzzzzzzz!!!!! :D

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    • I personally believe children should not grow up playing halo killing their own guys and live their lives thinking that its ok, is it wrong for me to think this? I just can't bare to watch even if they are npcs.

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    • Zeta1127,89thLegion wrote: And Denning is also rather gratuitous when it comes to gore.

      Ya, as if the guts and gore of movies these days wasn't enough.

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    • What? are you guys vegetarians?

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    • No, but we don't need guts n gore in a halo novel.

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    • weal they certainly shouldn't spend 8 chapters describing what happens to someone's body when they die in war.

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    • O2r

      I pretty much read through a quarter of this post then TL;DR'd it. So apologies if I ruined the flow.

      To answer your question (which may have already been answered above), yes they probably will do Halo 3. What will improve? Think about it this way, 2017 is two years away and graphics are still improving. We could seriously be looking back and going "That was what games looked like in 2007?" Technology always never ceases to amaze us.

      Gameplay wise, the HUD would probably stay the same, the sound redone etc. etc. etc. The hook would be multiplayer, as if your theory is correct then the last multiplayer title would have been Halo 5 (or Halo Wars 2 or a completely new game released in 2016). So that's two things to look forward to.

      Terminals are already in Halo 3 so what could improve? VISUAL TERMINALS. or maybe just more of them. who knows.

      Halo 6 teases, Access to the Halo 6 multiplayer beta, a mini game attached to it (I don't know, maybe we get to be in a longsword fighting in space above the Ark). Who knows and all we can do is just wait. I really have no idea what else they can do to it. Hope this helped :)

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    • I will be looking back and thinking, "why can't games look like that anymore?" Lol.

      I personally don't think halo 3 needs an update.

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    • Updating halo 3 would be like telling zuse to stop throwing lightening bolts and use a gun.

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    • Don't fix what ain't broken.

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    • HRC

      I would certainly love an Anniversary Eddition of Halo 3. One with brilliantly remade cutscenes like Halo 2 Anniversary and an updated 60 FPS high-def graphics like Combat Evolved Anniversary. Also, I would like if Halo 3 Anniversary could be downloaded via The Master Chief Collection instead of having to buy a whole new disk. Like if you buy the Anniversary it will swap out the old campaign option and put in the new one. Albeit, Bungie should provide 343 with all the classic cutscenes and graphics that you could download for each game, kind of like how the other anniversaries worked.

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    • I fell in love with halo 3.  I thought the graphics were amazing, and I even believed it was from 2011 (I know, its crazy).  I don't belive halo 3 should be remade from just graphics.  I also don't want 343 to try and go over the top, and screw it up.  Half of me says that 343 should leave it alone, and the other half says "yes please".  Dab1001, I get your point about evidence for whether or not halo 3 anniversary will be made.  I have thought about that before.  but, halo 4, 5, 6, and halo wars 2 were all announced well ahead of time at E3.  wouldn't they mention halo 3 anniversary?  surprises just don't happen often enough in the gaming world.

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    • I do think they will possibly add remastered halo 3 campaign as DLC in MCC.

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    • Lord of the STARS
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    • yeah, the only thing is my 360 barely works.

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    • I made a mistake, I meant to say Nintendo 64. I thought I said Nintendo 64. Why didn't I say Nintendo 64?


      Ok, rehearsed, take 2, and, action...


      Wouldn't it be great if they made halo 5 on Nintendo 64?

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    • not really.  

      1. Relatively few people actually have the Nintendo 64.  It would likely not be enough to support that.

      2. Are there enough buttons on the Nintendo 64, or would there be a button combo for most actions?

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    • Weal back then it was one of the greatest controllers in the world, keep in mind most games back then primarily used melee attack stiles and 3rd person view. I would say.... probably?

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    • Mando_N64.png

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    • who knows.  I think you meant it hypothetically, but it would be problematic in my opinion.  It still would be cool

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    • I'm a loser...I'm currently on gruntipedia in another tab...

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    • Then find a cooler wikia.

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    • I suck too bad

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    • Where egg heads where nerds where fans and where geeks drink up me hearties yo ho, where losers where actors and sci-fi freaks drink up me hearties yo ho...

      What's wrong?

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    • that's catchy!  we need an ending now

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    • If there is no PC release I don't want it. Not about to drop 400+ dollars on a crappy console and only for one game.

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    • Well, you could also buy H5 and TMCC. And a couple of other games, like Quantum Break or Crackdown, etc.

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    • Well, Halo 5 isn't really worth the buy, IMO. It's a bad game, especially for single-player.

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    • Yet you play it all the time :|

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    • I play its multiplayer occasionally. Not all the time, and I don't ever go back to campaign except when Wilc0 or someone wants to do some co-op.

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    • Yeah I don't play H5 at all anymore. I just play MCC if I do play on Xbone

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    • The Xbox One just has so little to offer beyond Halo, and 343i removed that as a selling point for me with the way Halo 5 took the emphasis on multiplayer from Halo 4 and added the microtransaction nonsense that is messing up Call of Duty. Combined with PS4 getting virtually all of the love this generation, and I don't see the point in getting an Xbox One. I have a gut feeling I am not going to like the story of Halo 5, when the campaign is why I play Halo. I also don't know what 343i was thinking with Smart Scope and how they handled scoped weapons in general with Halo 5, but if it becomes a permanent feature of Halo, I may be done with the franchise for the most part.

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    • you know, you say "messing up Call of Duty" but it was messed up the instant they copied Halo

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    • AW came first, so they pretty much came up with it at the same time after Personalization Packs, which were alright, appeared in BO2.

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    • Call of Duty was using mechanics invented by Halo from the start. Yet, up until CoD 4, it was a good franchise.

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    • Call of Duty was doomed from the start thanks to the way Activision handled CoD2, basically forcing Infinity Ward to make another WW2 game instead of a modern warfare game like what CoD4 ultimately became and adding Treyarch into the mix which ended Infinity Ward's exclusivity rights to the franchise almost before they even began, which went a long way toward setting the stage for the falling out during MW3.

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    • Zeta1127,89thLegion wrote:
      The Xbox One just has so little to offer beyond Halo, and 343i removed that as a selling point for me with the way Halo 5 took the emphasis on multiplayer from Halo 4 and added the microtransaction nonsense that is messing up Call of Duty. Combined with PS4 getting virtually all of the love this generation, and I don't see the point in getting an Xbox One. I have a gut feeling I am not going to like the story of Halo 5, when the campaign is why I play Halo. I also don't know what 343i was thinking with Smart Scope and how they handled scoped weapons in general with Halo 5, but if it becomes a permanent feature of Halo, I may be done with the franchise for the most part.

      I heard you somewhere saying that you were agnry on 343i removing split-screen from H5, since you play Halo mainly for split-screen with your brother.

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    • same

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    • I'M NEVER GETTING MERRIED TO A XBOX ONE!!!

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    • Well, I think that once they get done adding the 360's full library to Xbox One, it will be worth upgrading, if only for its use as a Blu-Ray player, its much better controller, TMCC and things like Quantum Break and Gears of War: UE/4.

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    • that link I posted January turned into another slow growing image.

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    • That's still a waste of money. Everything on TMCC that is worth having is already on 360, except maybe H2A, and its controller is oversized (this coming from someone with large hands, that should say something). Instead of wasting your money on an xbone merely for H2A and some meaningless exclusives, buy a PC.

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    • well, with MCC it's got all DLC maps from the original games. 

      If you bought each of the four games new individualy, it would be 80.00. it has all of them, AND their DLC

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    • Its controller is no bigger than the 360 controller. This isn't opinion, this is literally a fact, because I have my XB1 controller and 360 controller side-by-side right next to me (EDIT: Just measured it, XB1 is slightly wider (about 3-5mm) and the 360 is a couple millimetres thicker and they're both the same height). So, if you like the 360 controller, you'll like the One controller (only major difference is the lack of the bulky battery pack, and smaller thumbsticks, which I like but I've heard some don't).

      And when I said upgrade, I meant get sell the 360 and get a One. It would offset most of the cost if you got the One second-hand, and you get a better system overall. Nothing to do with PC - just that once they finish BC on XB1, it's worth upgrading you have a 360.

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    • Or you could use that money to get a PC. Which can emulate the xbone anyway.

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    • MenacePotatoe wrote:
      well, with MCC it's got all DLC maps from the original games. 

      If you bought each of the four games new individualy, it would be 80.00. it has all of them, AND their DLC

      Well, to be fair, anyone (sane) with a 360 is likely to have Halo 3 and Reach already, possibly 4 too. Plus, ODST came with all Halo 3 DLC on the Halo 3 Mythic disk.

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    • I can't figure out why I can't make a battleship with forge.

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    • Lord of the STARS wrote:
      I can't figure out why I can't make a battleship with forge

      I did a concrete one in H2A

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    • It'd be cool to get one working in Halo 5 with the vehicle welding glitch.

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    • Totally!

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    • Coolbuddy379 wrote: I heard you somewhere saying that you were angry on 343i removing split-screen from H5, since you play Halo mainly for split-screen with your brother.

      Splitscreen isn't the main reason why play Halo, that would be the campaigns, though it is an important reason, and it is actually pretty much the only way I get to play multiplayer. It isn't the main reason, because my brother and I aren't always in the same place anymore, and when we are, he prefers Call of Duty over Halo due to bots.

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    • Not to worry, I know a better game that has split screen. Sonic The Hedgehog 2

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    • Halo 3 anniversery should have cutscenes like Halo 2 did in Halo MCC

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    • Latest post was just a few days ago, I say this don't count.

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    • It was more than a week ago, so yes, this AWC's post counts as necromancy. And dude, you mean pre-rendered cutscenes like in Halo 2 Anniversary?

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    • If they make a Halo 3 Anniversary put 2 Campaigns a Master Chief and Arbiter Campaign.

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    • They where originally going to do that in original halo 3, but after halo 2 their where to many halo players writing back to what at the time was bungii "Waaaaaaa why did you make us play as this character who's not the master chiiieef?"

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    • I would just buy Halo 3A because if it's true then it will come to the PC like Halo 6, and Halo Wars 2. I don't have an Xbox One.

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    • Oh no a thread from march got revived? This is the worst disaster since they thought it would be funny to kill all the wolves in yellow stone! What have you done??? He's coming! HE'S COMING!!!!

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    • Dab1001 wrote:

      86.29.7.17 wrote:

      More likely is that Halo 3 Anniversary will be DLC for MCC or Halo 5 or something. If they do it at all, which is a bit doubtful.

      As you said yourself, Microsoft care most about money. Why would they make a DLC they could charge £40 for it by making it a game? Halo 3: Anniversary will end up being a standalone game, I assure you.


      Then why include four Halo games, including a remastered Halo 2, in one disk?  They could have made much more money releasing H2A as a single game.  After all, they would still get money from Halo CEA, 3, and 4.

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    • Do you two have any idea what you've done?????

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    • They could make H3A a game available for Xbox Play Anywhere, so we can play on PC

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    • Someone close this thread

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    • You do realise halo 3 in the mcc is the same game just upscaled to 1080p with 60fps? They haven't changed anything by hand as far as I know. The cutscenes in halo 3 look horrible and outdated. The audio for rhe weapons needs a refresh. Especially the ar and br. There is a lot they can do to improve halo 3 tbh. If they have already remastered halo 1 and 2, then they might as well do the whole trilogy and remake 3 aswell. Hd is at least 720p. Original halo 3 wasn't even 720p lol. All of the boulders in the first level in halo 3 you can see all of the jaggered lines lol. Sure halo 3A might not be as a big jump compared to 1A, h2a. But new features added in, remade audio, cutscenes etc it would make a great game

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    • I assume it will come to pc too with a 4k option. Then the first halo trillogy will be all on pc. Kinda silly how halo 1 and 2 have been on pc for years but no 3? Would have made decent $$$$ off it. But if halo 3a does come out I highly believe it will be xbox one and pc.

      Kind of annoys me when people say "all MS cares about is money" Umm yeah they wouldn't be doing it if it weren't for the money :P I don't see any other company making halo or anything as great :P especially for free. Heck halo 5 has been pretty much free (dlc's I mean) Sure you can buy req packs but no one is forcing you too

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    • >Halo 5
      >Free
      >Great

      I don't know what definition of "free" and "great" can be found in your dictionary, but I don't think they're the same ones as in mine.

      Also, H1 and 2 were for PC, yes, but that's back in the days of the original xbox. Since then, there haven't been any PC ports. I don't see why they suddenly would start now.

      Seriously, someone close this thread, it's getting really old.

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    • Well, if H3A does happen, it will almost certainly be on PC as well as Xbox, since that's the way Microsoft are moving (Halo 5: Forge is on PC, HW2 is, HSA and SS are, etc). But other than that, I agree with everything Red said.

      Anyway, closing thread...

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