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On November 22, EliteSpartan had issues with this article, 14.5x114mm. This article contains disputed content and may be fanfiction or a noncanon hoax.

Where does it say that this round is the same as the WWII round?

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Well, WWII used up a lot of different kinds of rounds, so this isn't really surprising. --Blemo23 04:26, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


Delete - The WWII round was not fin stabilized nor did it use discarding sabots.--EliteSpartan Sergeant-gr3 My TalkMy ContribsCavalier achievement 04:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Hes right. Trust me, I know. get rid of it. Spartan 107 06:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Effectiveness and UseEdit

If this round can destroy an elite or spartan in 1 or 2 shots and blow up wraiths with about 4, why the hell isn't it fed through machine guns like the .50 BMG on a M2? (like how the .50 BMG is fired out of M82 and other sniper rifles) ~MaseFace

If they portayed all the weapons' effects realistically, they wouldn't be able to portray the Covenant winning on the scale that they are. The rotary gun on the back of the Warthog fires .50 BMG ammunition, a round with comparable ballistics as 14.5, but to depict it as doing similar damage would be terribly unfair to the Covenant, if accurate. The bottom line is that Bungie still has little to no idea what in the hell they're talking about as far as weaponry and war materiel goes. As I said, if they depicted human weaponry accurately, the humans would be kicking the living shit out of the Covenant in ground combat, and space as well, if they used REAL nukes, and not the cherry bombs that keep showing up in canon. -- User:Griever0311

  • It's more along the line of the 12.7mm (.50) and 14.5mm being completely different types of munition, AP and APFSDS respectively. APFSDS (armor-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot) is much more effective against armor than mere AP, but there is a reason why it isn't used in automatic weapons like the M41. That reason being that these kinds of discarding sabots become troublesome when high rates of fire are involved and require more sophisticated approach than the 12.7mm AP-firing M41. For an example of this, check out Project NIBLICK, specifically the H&R designed flechette-firing assault rifle mentioned within. Now, there are sabot-type 12.7mm rounds that fire 7.7mm bullets at high velocity, but these are not APFSDS but instead SLAP (saboted light armor penetrator). Also, comparable types of 12.7mm and 14.5mm rounds (API, for example) don't do comparable damage. 14.5mm typically has almost twice the energy of the 12.7mm. --Murderofcrows (talk) 18:05, August 19, 2012 (UTC)