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Denied

Image:Colonel.png

Reasons to keep/erase

• I find this image espically offensive as it implies that the UNSC is really an American force that uses American badges. We have no idea what images are used as badges in the UNSC forces therefore this image should be banned from Halopedia -- Yamanba 11:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Offensive or not, the UNSC as a fictional nation seems to have been (IMO) spawned from the notion that eventually everyone will adopt the American way of life because clearly that is more civilized. It's stupid and shallow, but you can see it in several American products. That said, we don't really know what the badges look like. --Dragonclaws 07:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
• Civilized, my butt! I live here, and it's not that civilized! SPARTAN-091 ^{HelmetComm||Juliet}
  • I know, but that's a popular idea amongst patriots. --Dragonclaws 20:37, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

The thing is, Nylund has expressly stated that the ranks are based on the American system. The ranks each Halo 2 Charachter wears correspond directly to the American naval ranks, and the ranks described in every Halo book correspond directly to the same symbols on the American ranks.

You have to understand, there is an unavoidable leaning towards America in the Halo universe, wikipedia calls it "systematic bias." Bungie is an american Company, Microsoft is an American company. Nylund is an American writer, and though it has become popular in international markets, the Halo franchise was originally designed to cater towards American game players. Rather than trying to invent and describe an entirely new rank system, it seems that the developers of the storyline simply chose to take a shortcut in development and base most of the ranks and decorations off of the American system. They have been given criticism for it, but that is the way it was done. -ED 02:33, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I concur with the American system has been used to develop the UNSC ranking system and I'm disappointed by how lazy Bungie was in choosing that option but I have to strongly disagree with this image. Its obviously an American badge, even lazy sloppy Bungie wouldn't use this symbol! Its like having American flags on the ships! -- Esemono 01:50, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Plus, this symbolic emblem looks like the kind of thing that they'd play with specifically, like the UNSC amd ONI emblems. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 03:11, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

• Hey, now... Don't be hatin'. I just said it wasn't civilized. I am a "patriot," but one who believes in national soveriegnty (sp?). And that includes America. We (the world) will never be united under one flag. Ever. SPARTAN-091 ^{HelmetComm||Juliet}
  • I wasn't trying to turn this into a political debate, I was just pointing out an opinion I've often encountered. I certainly hope that the world doesn't unite like that in our world, but that seems to be how it's turned out in the Halo universe. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 03:11, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Wait! If we had an image with a colonel insig. in it, then why the hell didn't we use THAT? And, the only differences I can see in the two is the bent wings on the UNSC one, and the position of the shield. SPARTAN-091 ^{HelmetComm||Juliet} 22:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Ruling

DELETE per above. --Dragonclaws 07:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

KEEP "Curiously, he [Ackerson] wore an Army uniform, pinned with the eagle insigne [sic] of a colonel." --Halo:GoO, pg. 58 SPARTAN-091 ^{HelmetComm||Juliet}

NEUTRAL despite what I said above, this particular symbol has not appeared in universe anywhere as of yet. -ED 02:33, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Change to DELETE to break the tie. -ED 03:48, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

KEEP Comme on it makes sence if you think about it.--ryanngreenday 20:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

DELETE Per Yamanba. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too have an AI... his name is Supreme Honcho.} 04:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:1cheif.JPG

Reasons to keep/erase

• Just a canon image with lines drawn on it. Guesty-Persony-Thingy 19:46, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
• Why is this here? It looks like a screenshot, not a contested image. SPARTAN-091 ^{HelmetComm||Juliet}
• Click on it, it has red lines drawn everywhere. Guesty-Persony-Thingy 22:39, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Ruling

KEEP It's a screenshot. Keep unles it is a duplicate image. -ED 21:35, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Also, it has generally been our policy to allow fiction images to be uploaded unless they were used on actual pages. This image is only used by a user for his userpage. Generally we have left userpage images alone, no matter what they are.-ED 23:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

True but the committee should still judge it incase someone tries to use it in an article -- Esemono 15:35, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

KEEP as per above. SPARTAN-091 ^{HelmetComm||Juliet}

DELETE Find the original one. --Dragonclaws 22:21, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

DELETE Per above.--ryanngreenday 20:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

NEUTRAL Okay, so it's on a userpage, but does he even come 'round anymore? I haven't seen him, and, unless you click on the picture, nothing's different, so he might as well just use the original, which I think we already have, so I'll let the admins decide whether it's right to get rid of it, now that he's (I think) gone. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too have an AI... his name is Supreme Honcho.} 04:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY USE ON ARTICLES Okay, apparently the lines are supposed to be blood.... and Unngoy does come around, sorta, and he wants to keep them, even though the thumbnailing almost completely removes it... so I'll have to comply with his request. Also, because of his wish to keep this one, his other image, although denied by the fanart committee, should still be kept, but because they're really bad fanart, I'm going to have to say deny, as in denied use on articles, but not delete. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 18:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Bompapprach.jpg

Reasons to keep/erase

This isn't the actual scene from the cutscene this ship has been altered. -- Esemono 03:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Ruling

KEEP Per my below argument about ship color, and because I think this is, like many other images, just from another angle. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too have an AI... his name is Supreme Honcho.} 03:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

TRASH It is a created image. There are cruisers around the carrier. Cruisers never got to earth during the cutscene, only two carriers. The planet is also obviously earth, so the image is no good because it depicts something false. -ED 03:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY per Ed. Depicts something non-canon. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 19:37, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY per above.--ryanngreenday 20:13, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Glassing_reach_2.JPG

Reasons to keep/erase

This was approved while the pic it was cropped from was denied. I figure it should be re-voted on. ~Chickenman

Ruling

ACCEPT Per my below argument, it's a valid image. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too have an AI... his name is Supreme Honcho.} 23:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY Okay, I can tell that you really don't want them, and the new guy doesn't want to vote; whatever. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 18:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

ACCEPT Yeah, I guess they are white. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 04:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY I'll have to insist that they are not white. -ED 03:54, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY Agreed, not white.--ryanngreenday 20:13, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Glassingreach.jpg

Reasons to keep/erase

This was denied, but, if you watch the VERY first cutscene, when the pre-Arbiter says "it fled, as we set fire to their planet," you'll see that all the Covy ships are, contrary to Esemono's ED's "NEVER" argument, white, and, like many other pictures that were recently approved, this seems to just be a hi-res screenshot. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too have an AI... his name is Supreme Honcho.} 23:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I said they were "NEVER" white? I added this like the others as they are posted on a Halo FanArt site and then uploaded here by User:Unggoy to his "Gallery". The ones that had an artist who claims to have created them I posted here. They look just like Canon Images but I decided to post them here just to be sure. Most of the above Images are "created" by Major Dump. -- Esemono 05:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh crap! Sorry, that was ED, not Esemono... whoops.... Anyway, are you talking about Halouvre? I thought for the most part Halouvre was just a game screenshot place, at least in the HUDless Halo Photography section... unless you're talking about something else...? g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 05:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey the place where this altered image posted in the HUDless Halo Photography section came from. -- Esemono 22:34, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Ruling

ACCEPT Per my above argument. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too have an AI... his name is Supreme Honcho.} 23:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY Okay, I can tell that you really don't want them, and the new guy doesn't want to vote; whatever. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 18:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

ACCEPT Yeah, I guess they are white. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 04:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY look closely at that image, and you will see that the ships look white because there is light reflecting off of them. Their charachteristic purple can be seen on the edges of the ships. These on the other hand, look like they flew through a cloud of bleach. Again, Covenant ships are all light purple, never white. -ED 03:51, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY agreed, not really white.--ryanngreenday 20:13, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

COMMENT I'm pretty sure that this is just another hi-res cutscene screenshot from another angle, but, rather than arguing about it, let's just ask Major Dump, the guy who first made it and uploaded it to his Halouvre gallery; surely he will know. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 04:03, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

COMMENT Okay, that was before he figured out how the materials worked, so it's the same except for the colors. But, even though they're a different color, I'm still fine with keeping the images. Anyway, Chickenman is right; either approve them both or trash them both. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 02:22, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

• Who is "he" and what are the "materials" -- Esemono 06:22, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
• To me, it's like using an image of Master Chief with white armor as an official one and saying its "essentially the same thing." When we have better screenshots and fan art that depicts Covenant ships correctly, why use incorrect ones like these? -ED 02:26, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's not just like just having another Spartan with white armor, because it's not just a white ship, it's a ship over reach. I'd vote to delete any old white Spartan, but I'd say keep a white Spartan beating the crap out of Regret, at least until we got a better picture. Do we have pictures like this, hi-res and all that, with the proper color? If so, I'll change my vote. If not, I'll stick with keep, until we get a proper one. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 04:53, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

There's only ever been one image of Reach. I don't see why we need this one when it is essentially the same image, just with white ships. I think other fanart can be/has been found that just depicts the ships, with the proper colors. If we're keeping the image because it has Reach, well we already have an official one. If we're keeping it for the ships, we already have decen images of those, too. -ED 19:05, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:MC1.jpg

Reasons to keep/erase

NEUTRAL What does it represent? And is that another Spartan in the background? It's hard to see due to image size. -- Manticore ^{Talk | CSV} 03:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Ruling

DENY It looks like a cool way of drawing a multiplayer match, but it's vague, hard to see, and stuff. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 05:00, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY per GPT. -- Manticore ^{Talk | CSV} 12:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY Ive seen this on the internet alot and its starting to grow on me..we must DENY it.--Captain ryanngreenday 11:15, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Coffeebreak.jpg

Reasons to keep/erase

Could it be used on one of the pages about making a master chief costume? -ED 16:14, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

It isn't a photograph, you know... it's a screenshot and some AMAZING Photoshopping skillz. And, for once, I can actually prove my screenshotty-being-ness: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/38249239/?qo=4&q=by%3Aveegie&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 18:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Ruling

NEUTRAL I don't know of any uses, but it is a cool pic... g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 18:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY Since denying it doesn't mean it doesn't stay, just that it can't be used on articles. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 05:00, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

NEUTRAL I've never seen Red Vs Blue, but could it be used to represent one of their characters? -- Manticore ^{Talk | CSV} 04:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY It depicts something non-canon. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 21:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY per above -- Manticore ^{Talk | CSV} 12:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Earthdefense.jpg

Reasons to keep/erase

I realize that this is just on someones userpage now but it would be nice to get a ruling so can know if it can be used in articles -- Esemono 16:26, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Ruling

ACCEPT Looks alright.--ryanngreenday 20:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

DENY poor quality image. -ED 21:21, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

ACCEPT Not the best of qualities, but it gets the job done, so I say we keep it, at least until a better picture like it is found. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too have an AI... his name is Supreme Honcho.} 04:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY - We could get appropriate screenshots (if there aren't any already... which I'd be suprised at) to use on pages. The glowing red on the MAC stations makes it look kinda tacky. -- Manticore ^{Talk | CSV} 03:09, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY per above. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 21:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Remnants_Control_Room.PNG

Reasons to keep/erase

Ruling

DENY Councillors don't command ships; the only time we know of when they fight is during the Civil War. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 18:46, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY We know councillor's are a political power in the Covenant, they don't command ships or troops. -- Manticore ^{Talk | CSV} 04:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY per above. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 21:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:SWBTCortanaK.jpg

Reasons to keep/erase

DENY This is not a porn site. Respect them Grunts, --Mouse among men 22:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Ruling

DENY per Mouse among men -- Manticore ^{Talk | CSV} 04:06, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY per above. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 21:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

DENY per above. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 23:44, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Approved

Image:Longsword Cockpit.jpg

Reasons to keep/erase

This is apparantly FanArt because it's not a Canon cutscene but an altered cutscene where the the camera moves around. Thus this needs to be approved because it may have been altered. -- Esemono 03:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Ruling

ACCEPT why not looks fine.--ryanngreenday 20:13, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

ACCEPT it doesn't seem too altared. -ED 22:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

ACCEPT Sure, why not. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 18:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Bloodied Remanents.JPG

Reasons to keep/erase

Ruling

ACCEPT this one is just cropped from another image we've already approved. -ED 22:46, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

ACCEPT Sure, Yeah, Ok--ryanngreenday 15:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

ACCEPT Why not. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 18:41, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Campaignreach.jpg

Reasons to keep/erase

Ruling

ACCEPT Looks like Reach from the opening cutscene with ships modded in; nothing wrong with it. But, when it comes to this issue, we all know I'm a complete and utter loony, so don't listen to me; just the ACCEPT at the beginning. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 21:39, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

ACCEPT - I don't see any problem with it, it's canon. What's up with the red dots though? Are they on UNSC ships or is someone adding them on for a particular reason? -- Manticore ^{Talk | CSV} 01:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

OK so I checked some screenshots of UNSC ships from the games, and none have those little red dots. I'm still approving this image, but for the record, those dots shit me! -- Manticore ^{Talk | CSV} 01:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Turns out it's another one of Major Dump's weird screenys... who woulda thunk!! But anyway, after watching the opening cutscene, it looks like they're actually there! TEN POINTS!!! g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 02:49, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

ACCEPT agreed--Captain ryanngreenday 10:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Tank.jpg

Reasons to keep/erase

Ruling

APPROVE - It's a good pic. -- Manticore ^{Talk | CSV} 09:29, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

APPROVE agreed--Captain ryanngreenday 10:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

ACCEPT It's vague enough to pass. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 22:12, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Rotate2.gif

Reasons to keep/erase

Deny as Covenant ships don't have those marks or ports on their sides

Those images depict different sides of the ship, though. And the blue one was from an announcenent trailer, making its canon dubious. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 04:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Ruling

KEEP Per Dragonclaws, as I was thinking the same thing. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too have an AI... his name is Supreme Honcho.} 04:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

KEEP per above. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 20:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Keep per above.--ryanngreenday 20:55, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Slip space enter.jpg

Reasons to keep/erase

Is this fanart? It looks like Halo cinematic with the camera turned. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 04:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Ruling

KEEP Per Dragonclaws. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too have an AI... his name is Supreme Honcho.} 04:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

KEEP per above. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 20:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Keep per above.--ryanngreenday 20:55, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Chiefs.jpg

Reasons to Keep/erase

Though obviously a modded image, a screenshot of four six Spartan-II's running through an ambiguoius swamp could be useful on pages where a smiliar scene was described, such as Sigma Octanus IV or Onyx. -ED 20:08, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Ruling

KEEP per my reasons above. -ED 20:08, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

KEEP per his reasons above.--ryanngreenday 20:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

DELETE Those are alien plants seen on Halo and High Charity. I find it unlikely that they would be on any human colony. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 12:28, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

NEUTRAL No comment. SPARTAN-091 ^{HelmetComm||Juliet}

KEEP Per his reasons above; a picture of six Spartans running through a swamp might be useful somewhere... maybe... g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho.} 03:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:CairoStationCallouts.jpg

Reasons to keep/erase

Ruling

KEEP Appears accurate. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 02:16, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

KEEP agreed. -ED 17:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

KEEP agreed.--ryanngreenday 20:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:Seraphagain.jpg

Reasons to keep/erase

• Since no image exists this would be a great filler until a Bungie one is released.

• Yeah, it IS one of the Seraph fighters, after all... SPARTAN-091 ^{HelmetComm||Juliet}

• "Images of the Seraph can be taken." Yeah, and this is proof of it, isn't it? It's just a screenshot! "The Seraph is actually in Halo 2, unlike some other ships." Yes... and this is just a screenshots of it, isn't it? Or am I just missing something here? g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy 23:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

You are missing that this is not a screenshot. A seraph was shown flying only once in Halo 2, that was in outer space. The Seraph at the gas mine was parked in the bay and never flew like this. The uploader also direstly stated that it was not a screenshot. -ED 00:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, it's not a screenshot, but as the uploader directly stated, it is a "Seraph render. Unknown origin." The key word here is render, which is pretty much the same as a screenshot. Okay, so it's not like someone grabbed Blind, went to some place where they'd see it, and grabbed it with their capture card, but as far as I can tell, someone with a modded XBox accessed the Seraph model and rendered it. I can see "Seraph render. Unknown origin" meaning it's not a screenshot, but I couldn't see it meaning that it's fanart. Since no one seems to know where this image is from, I'm going to post at HBO, and perhaps someone will be able to help us out. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy 01:46, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

For the record, I don't really remember what it originally said at old.halopedia, so either I copied it or wrote it based on what I thought I saw. The claim that it's a render perhaps in error either on my part or the original uploader (whoever wrote that description) because when I look at it now it looks like fanart. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 04:23, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Ruling

TRASH Images of the Seraph can be taken. In particular, there is a Seraph parked in the docking bay in The Arbiter (Level) and it can be photographed from any angle, in much better quality. This image is not needed. -ED 21:35, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

KEEP as a filler until a better picture is taken. SPARTAN-091 ^{HelmetComm||Juliet}

DELETE per ED. The Seraph is actually in Halo 2, unlike some other ships. --Dragonclaws 22:21, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

KEEP until a better picture is taken.--ryanngreenday 20:32, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

KEEP Per my reasons above, at least until we get a better picture. g^ue_st^y-p_er^so_ny-^th_in^gy^{I too have an AI... his name is Supreme Honcho.} 04:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)