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I know 343 has already said that Elites won't be playable in Halo 4's multiplayer, and that Elites will be bad again in the campaign, but, does that mean ALL Elites will be? I mean, the Chief and Cortana are entering a planet/world in which Elites are bad. But do these Elites know about the Elites from Earth, the ones Arbiter is leading? If not, they wouldn't know about how the Elites broke away from the Covenant and everything, so these Elites could just be rogue, non-Covenant Elites (Or Covenant Elites not knowing about the Elite rebellion). What do you guys think? D3T&FS 03:47, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

As far as I know, the arbiter isn't leading the elit rebellion. Shipmaster is.

Two words: Splinter groups. They could be to the Elites as the Insurrection was to humans. I've gone through many possible situations as to why Elites would be attacking the Chief, and this is the one I found the least flaws in.

Yes the first two guys are right, but I think that the Rogue Elites will be AWESOME. Nobody will supply them, so that means improvised weapons and vehicles. Plus the Arbiter was better as a bad guy. But, then again, they may not be Rogue. MC and Arby didn't kill all the Prophets (If they died then this means nothing), so the new prophets will lead Loyalists, maybe including elites (Not all of them split), and cool Hunter Variants (Hopefully). 343 will tell us everything we need to know.

I Agree. These Sangheili do not look "Uniformal" and are probably rogue. And the Sangheili are not the type of people who would be first break a truce. In fact, they punish betrayal with death.

That or that these Elites didn't get the news of the Human-Elite alliance yet. Most likely they're going to be some splinter group. GodzillaMaster20:48, April 21, 2012 (UTC) Never know I suppose, shame we have to fight them again, some of my favorite guys in the game, kind of sucks that you can't play as them kinda sucks, but hey maybe we will be able to.Read blog on Covenant

Didn't you read the full plot?? These Elites are a rouge faction, they don't belong to the Separatist.

Josua90hik 10:22, April 22, 2012 (GMT +7:00)

That's what I was thinking. The Elite weilding the energy sword and fighting Master Chief is with another group of Elites on that planet that aren't Seperatists, or just don't know about the truce. Therefore, Chief thinks all of the Covenant turned. Basically, right?

Which leads me to another short question, do you think the Arbiter (Thel 'Vadam) or the Shipmaster will be in Halo 4? D3T&FS 05:13, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

I heard they will be rogue. Possibly Heretics (as they still disliked humanity) that are running low on armor, due to battle with Forerunner/Precursor/Flood on the planet? I just wonder what the Heretics would say if they met humans before their demise to Thel 'Vadam (then Thel 'Vadamee). I just hope some allies will be there that aren't UNSC. Halo 2 had the right idea: mix up who and whom are you and your allies. Either way, the truce WAS formed because of Arbiter's realization, and as the Shipmaster says in Halo 3, he'd glass Earth were it not for the Arbiter. And it was mainly to be rid of the Covenant and Flood. I still don't know if the truce would be broken or if there would be an official friendship/alliance between them, like Humans and Prophets (San Shyuum) before the Rings were fired.

Taerdan 02:28, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

The Elites could also be similar to the jackal pirates in that one book that i can never rember the name of, a rouge group that broke off to be on their own or maybe even a specific clan that never accepted the original Covenant pact and were exidited to this mysterious forerunner planet.

@Above: Like the Jackals of The Rubble (search it on this Wiki), I think you mean. They formed an alliance with the rebels there.

Taerdan 00:15, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

It looks to me as if it is simply for gameplay reasons. It could also be that 343 doesn't like the idea of friendly elited.

I'm so glad to fight 'lites again. Just like the good old and the newest days (HR, CEAA). I've always preffered fighting the Elites. The Arbiter(s) are good bad guys. Oh and post #2, which shipmaster, R'tas? Royal Rifle 20:17, May 8, 2012 (UTC)Royal Rifle

I think post #2 was talking about the one in Halo 3, in which case he'd be wrong. Arbiter is. And as much as I like fighting Covies, too many have it down to a science. We need something new, with new tactics and strategies that come with better AI programming. Also, in lower modes where Elites are not (or two) 1-hit melee kills (on you), just go up and beat the living -blam!- out of them, like with Unggoy, until shields are too low. Black Eye Skull is a boon, not a burden, to us brawlers.

Taerdan 20:42, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

well there were some elites along time ago that were lookinglike samurias

I remember in the ending of halo 3 during the memorial, the Arbiter and the shipmaster talked about returning to Sanghelios. So im guessing they wont be in halo 4. I read an article before that said that these elites in halo 4 are so far away, like really far away, from the events in halo 3 that they aren't informed about the rebellion, the destruction of the covenant and the truce between the humans. So these covies will be just like the ones in CEA or Reach because they dont know that their prophet leaders are dead The covenant most likely sent armies all over the galaxy to take over and secure forerunner artifacts so thats why they are there.

bigv97 22:49, October 12, 2012 (GMT +5)

The Kilo-Five trilogy explains all these answers. It's very much based around the politics of what the Arbitor had to face when he returned to Sanghelios and what role the humans played when it came to assisting the civil war he faced

TheMuffinMan347 (talk) 12:44, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

I say that theese r diferent elites, not rouge but they split away from the other ones, they r lead by shipmaster jule madam or what ever it is. I think they r nutral with arbeys and the epic ship masters elites. They still woreship thee forerunners and made alliances with the grunts, jackels, hunters and the promethians l8r on.

Yeah, we know that they're a new group. People that have been keeping up with Halo lore have known for months over the span of two (soon to be three) books and one game that these elites are a new group that are both against Thel and humanity. 500x godzilla2dy5 01 GodzillaMaster 21:16, December 8, 2012 (UTC)