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Hey everyone, i'm CommanderTony one of the more senior Administrators here at Halopedia. And despite people's thoughts, I am not...I repeat, I am not the Leader or Head Admin of the wikia. I prefer to be called "Tony" or "CT" over the entirety of my name, and most messages you send me will be replied to.

I'm currently a student in the United States, and a Marine Cadet with the rank of Gunnery Sergeant. I love to watch movies, play games, shoot firearms, work on cars, go to work, and other assorted things with myself and friends.

After High School, I hope to become an Infantry Officer in the US Marine Corps or a Fighter pilot in either the Marines or Navy. If neither of those work out, then I hope to become a writer/artist for either movies or games.

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Disbanding the Usergroups

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The Usergroups of Halopedia have played a wonderful part in the history of our great wikia, providing the means for many users to aspire to greatness and articles to become of better quality.

Though it is quite obvious that in the past year, it has all taken a downward spiral, one that nobody could have seen (even with the rise in accounts created), or even thought of. Four terms have been in power across all usergroups since the lack of activity began. All they've really truly done is accept users into the group and take promotion requests. The current terms and the councilors from each of them during the last elections promised a real increase in activity and attempting to get more users involved. More than a month has passed since that, and nothing has changed a single bit. And as a side note, the Ancients and Gamers usergroups have barely had any activity, even user acceptance into their ranks.

This is why I propose that all of the usergroups, including the Monitors and Standard's Council, be disbanded immediately. In their place, I suggest an Administrator-supported effort to assist in the attention of Project: M.O.S.. Or perhaps even a restructuring of the current groups into focusing on smaller things (i.e. Weapons, Characters, Starships, Levels, etc.) rather than a wide and overwhelming arc of an entire faction's related articles. I also propose that the Monitors of Halopedia be replaced by active users, rather than just only Administrators, nearly half of which are currently inactive at the time. There are many good candidates for Featured Articles, though it is only hindered by (of course), a lack of activity in the usergroups.

I'm sure this won't come to a shock to some people, and many people will be infuriated with rage and hate. But there is simply no point whatsoever in hosting usergroups that are nothing more than a name and a group of users, disregarding their prime objective of enhancing our articles. I also remind you that they will not go away forever, as only the non-essential pages for the groups will be deleted.

Thank you, and have a great day!

Rawr,
Captain James T. Kirk, USS Enterprise (NCC-1701) Talk December 22, 2009

Votes

Support (29/2)

  1. Support - As per my statement above. Captain James T. Kirk, USS Enterprise (NCC-1701) Talk December 22, 2009
  2. Support - User groups aren't that great. I, of all people, should know. Kougermasters (Talk) (Edits) 22:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Support - I had noted that in the past 2 months. Should be done.--Flood12345 23:33, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. Support - Mild support, stronger under the conditions of my proposal. - Ghost Sangheili [iTalk] [iWork]
  5. Support - Overstrong support. - JEA13 [iTalk] 06:07, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  6. Support - I think more focused groups is the way to go. Also leaders that actually participate regularly, those that don't should lose their high rank. The wiki might need wider reforms though, for example the featured article has been the same for over a year or more. --Jaguartalon 08:59, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  7. Support - I honestly never saw the point in usergroups, it makes users neglect articles by only focusing on a specific category when editing. Colonel DA, Administrator 13:46, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  8. Support As per Subtank's comment. - Ascy 'Vamal Light your way with honour! 14:01, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  9. Support-ShadowBroker44 15:39, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  10. Support-As many others have explained.Surpreme Commander Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Holonet) 17:51, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  11. Support - As much as I've liked the usergroup idea, I have to agree with Subtank's comment below, but I do like some of the other ideas given such as keeping a page protected by the admins for each group and keeping our userboxes. --Andrew-996 "Radio Frequency 9.96" "Confirmed Kills" 22:39, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  12. Support - They can be fun, but they really serve no purpose anymore. D1134 03:07, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
  13. Support - Although I am saddened by the thought of the Usergroups being disbanded, I agree with what you are saying CT. You have my support. -- Lieutenant Mechanical-Menace Defense System: Active Communications Array: Online Construction: Complete
  14. SupportHalopedia neds to be changed KY4EVER Ultragruntfan
  15. Support - I think this is a great idea. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 11:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
  16. Support - you have my support in removing them. S-058
  17. Support - I see the logic and it will be painful to say goodbye, but they have had a good run. §ubnova71 0:12, 31 May 2009 (UTC) (Now I will go to my corner and cry... XD)
  18. Support - The original purpose of them was to encourage group work, and that no longer happens. They no longer have a reason to be here. Blade bane 14:18, 30 May 2009 (UTC)Blade bane
  19. Support - While I agree the Usergroups should be disbanded, I think there should be something more efficient to replace them. Halo-343 17:38, 30 May 2009
  20. Support -I have been personal witness to the total inactivity of the usergroups. They are nothing but a waste of memory crystal. Lieutenant Mcloganator 00:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
  21. SupportSecond Lieutenant Keith Johnson com link 17:53, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
  22. Support- While I agree the usergroups be disbanded, this is thou the third time this event has come up something more effecient (not human controlled) should be brought to surface. Death Rider
  23. Support- Captain6 01:42, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
  24. Support - Go ahead. I don't even take part in 'em, and I haven't seen them do anything noteworthy. DavidJCobb  04:16, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
  25. Support - DinoBenn 07:35, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
  26. Support - I never liked em anyway... WraithAscendant TacComm Classified Operations 07:53, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
  27. Support - Alas, all the usergroups have turned into is a list of people joining up and then not doing anything. Its tedious going through promotion requests for the tiniest thing, and there's little incentive left for people to edit. -- Administrator Specops306 - Qur'a 'Morhek Honour Light Your Way! 10:15, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
  28. Support - Begone with them. All they are doing is taking up space. --Thunderstream328 Scroll 11:04, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
  29. Support - They seem to serve no purpose, and we should remove them. S-058
  30. Support - M3311|Robot | Image:DPalive.png 17:55, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Neutral (3/0)

  1. Neutral While I agree that work efforts in groups are down, I don't one hundred percent agree with disbandment. Perhaps if they were disbanded, they could be replaced with a small cleanup group, or maybe more emphasis could be put on Improvement Articles? Elimination. Decimation. Annihilation. 21:57, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Neutral I don't care either way. SmokeSound off! 05:46, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Neutral Not that I completely disagree nor agree with the entire disbanding of the usergroups, but I, too like, SevenCycles, also admit that the usergroups are becoming more and more inactive. I still believe that the usergroups are still attracting more users to edit, but at a much smaller scale than ever before. They provide a sense of who's been the most hard-working and constructive, and I believe this shows other users, members of the usergroup or not, who to turn to for help. (Although technically, Halopedia isn't supposed to be a hierachy). I agree with the second and third (and obviously first) paragraphs of CT's proposal and I do believe in the reconstructing the groups into weapons, characters, ships, and etc., but I was wondering with all these different categories, wouldn't the number of groups just double and cause even more confusion and/or disorganization? I may be wrong or have read it wrong, but that's the way that I'm picturing it at the moment. Again, I'm a little on the support side, but unfortunately in my infinite wisdom, I always like to contradict my own strong beliefs, and abstain for now until further stronger comments. If the usergroups are to be disbanded, I strongly hope that Ghost Sangheili's "Save the Page" idea of keeping the usergroup pages and userboxes as a chance to remember them by as an old ancient Halopedian relic. On a different note, I congratulate Tony on his proposal. Rawr and forever, --Blemo Image:Progress Wheel.gif TALK CONTRIBUTIONSEMAILCALENDERMESSAGE

Oppose (4/0)

  1. Oppose-Dragonblaze-052 03:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Oppose-Same reason as my comment.Kasa 'Makonee 19:49, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. OpposeGalacticdominator 12:47, 28 May 2009 (UTC) why not simply create sub-groups? the usergroups are an importaint part of halopedia
  4. Oppose- I think that Usergroups are a more enlightening side of the Halopedia community. Although the community as a whole is a fantastic one (aside from vandals and point whores), the Usergroups add a fun side where people can find a sense of belonging and group together with people that have similar likes and interests. Yes, the usergroups have been inactive; but it is still fun to have a group of people that can help each other and work together to help the community. We can't blame the inactivity of the usergroups on its leaders or anything of the sort. I think that a major part of the inactivity is that many people join the groups, but then stop helping the group a few days after they join. There are still many loyal users that help each usergroup with page edits as well as aiding the community. The groups should remain. User talk:ThirstyGrunt 11:06, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
  5. Oppose- I agree with galacticdominator. It makes more sense to sub divide the groups than undertake a radical restructuring; that would take more time to develop and iron out a new system than to revise the current one. User talk:VYPER117
    Oppose:Read my comment. But the hint is, it is hard to find mistakes or stuff to edit in great wikias like this one, Zeldapedia, etc.--Shade Link 19:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
NicmavrColonel
212 days ago
Score 3+-
I really don't know. While I agree that most usergroups are inactive and are just like a group of people, I do have some doubts on this, probably due to the fact that a lot of work was put in making them in the first place. So, I'm going to stay Neutral on this for now.
CommanderTonyGeneral
212 days ago
Score 2+-
Well all of that "lot of work" was a waste, since a year after their conception, they withered down to nothing but a social club with a rank structure, rather than a working party.
NicmavrColonel
212 days ago
Score 2+-
True. I'm going to wait for more opinions before I make my final decision.
CommanderTonyGeneral
212 days ago
Score 1+-
I have a feeling that you are against this, due to the sole fact that you are currently a CoH Councilor XD. But that's fine.
NicmavrColonel
212 days ago
Score 1+-
Nah, it has nothing to do with that. XD Even if I wasn't, I'd still be neutral. I wonder if we could somehow do some sort of promotion to them: Make them more clear, try and do something that could encourage group users to do the work that we intend to. Before we try to disband them I mean. :/
CommanderTonyGeneral
212 days ago
Score 1+-
Well we've already tried to encourage activity from users many times over the past year, though none of the attempts have succeeded.
SubtankBrigadier General
212 days ago
Score 3+-
"the Ancients and Gamers usergroups have barely had any activity"
—Blog

I blame bad advertisement plan for the extinct activity.

Support Well... I guess it has to be done in order to improve the articles. Furthermore, the point system acts like a motivator and eliminates the promotion request; in order to reach a rank, you need to contribute to the Wiki. Cheat and you'll never attain the rank.
KougermastersCommander
212 days ago
Score 4+-
Neutral - Disbanding them seems a little harsh. You should at least make the usergroups more obvious before getting rid of them; a chance, perhaps, to re-accumulate users? Meh. Anyways, all of your points are good, and I sort of Support, sort of Oppose; but I'm closer to Support. However, if this does come into effect, do not delete the usergroup pages and templates. As you said, the usergroups need not go away forever.
CommanderTonyGeneral
212 days ago
Score 3+-
We have tried to make them a lot more obvious, though people just don't want to come. There's no incentive other than ranking up and acting like you are a part of something. And it's not even their faults...it's the Councilors fault for not doing anything about it in the first place.
As for deleting pages, I won't, but the hundreds of userboxes will. Essentially (if disbanded), it will wither down to everything but the main pages (policies, members, etc.).
Specops306Brigadier General
211 days ago
Score 2+-
As a former Councillor, I have to agree with CT on the lack of incentive. The introduction of the points system made the strongest incentive the usergroups had, rank, a moot point. Its automated, and doesn't rely on Councillor approval.
General5 7Colonel
212 days ago
Score 2+-
Neutral I'm really not that sure.
JEA13Lt. Commander
212 days ago
Score 2+-
Reread Subtank's comment. She is absolutely right. The points system has taken over now. The usergroups are completely useless. Full Support From Me!
JEA13Lt. Commander
212 days ago
Score 2+-
I would normally propose abandoning the points system because by that way, the usergroups would reach their zenith. But anyway :)
GunnerCorporal
206 days ago
Score 0+-
Support although I haven't been part of a usergroup, I have occasionally wandered onto their area and seen that not much activity has been done on their parts recently. And after reading Subtank's comment I have to agree.
NicmavrColonel
212 days ago
Score 1+-
I too have been considering what Subtank said. And I too have to lean towards Support, as she does have a point.
Andrew-996Gunnery Sergeant
212 days ago
Score 1+-
As much as I've liked the usergroup idea, I have to agree with Subtank's point. Support
Zealot masterSergeant
212 days ago
Score -3+-
Please if there is any love in you do not disband the covenant of halopedia our council takes care of the covenant related articles and you have praise the councilers for there effort, but if you do I will never see myself become a major.
CommanderTonyGeneral
212 days ago
Score 5+-
You becoming a Major is because you edit articles BY YOURSELF, as in you ranking up is due to your actions. A lot time has passed since anyone has been promoted due to a group effort.
Ghost sangheiliColonel
211 days ago
Score 2+-
Exactly, the original intent was group collaboration.
Spirit-of-HALOBrigadier
212 days ago
Score 0+-
Support
ShadowBroker44Major
211 days ago
Score 2+-
# Support
Specops306Brigadier General
211 days ago
Score 2+-
Support I have to agree. Given the amount of activity we have, separate usergroups for each faction seems too much. Reforming them into one larger usergroup for the whole site seems like a more logical way to go.
Sith VenatorLt. Commander
211 days ago
Score 2+-
Support- The main reason I never joined one.
Ghost sangheiliColonel
211 days ago
Score 3+-
It's real tough for me. I've spent a long time to reach the rank that I have in the CoH and UoH, it's something I recognize in myself and others, it's something that I and others proudly display. It's even harder with the AoH seeing as I still feel a bit of ownership over the group after Simon rjh and I managed to revive it for all of a month.

I thing I am going to agree that they should be disbanded, but not deleted. A template atop their pages ("Here lies a relic of times passed, look but do not touch"), protected by the admins, and allow us to keep the Userboxes and whatnot. Freeze them in time, do not eradicate them.

But all in all, Support.

- Ghost Sangheili [iTalk] [iWork]
Sith VenatorLt. Commander
211 days ago
Score 2+-
I agrre with the userbox idea thing too.
KougermastersCommander
211 days ago
Score 2+-
Support - I support now, as well as agree with Ghost sangheili.
Sub-71Captain
211 days ago
Score 0+-
I Support Ghost sangheili, but thats if this new proposal is put into effect. Now with some statements and arguments that have been brought up I hesitantly Support this idea and I do share the same opinion as Spartansniper450, but yeah.....
EwCDnaudee419Brigadier
208 days ago
Score 0+-
I strongly agree with Ghost sanfheili's point.
Spartansniper450Commander
211 days ago
Score 1+-
with a heavy heart I agree, I too have spent much time and energy attaining the ranks i have currently acheived but as CT put merely social groups now, I think SpecOps has a good idea with one unified Usergroup, but what to do with i don't kno, I also agree with Ghost sangheili that we should keep the current usergroups as "relics to the past", the only problem I have with that is that some noob user might come along, and wrongfully put a userbox on his/her page without our knowledge, wouldnt be the first time, just sayin, but to my point Support
Stigma-231Lt. Commander
211 days ago
Score 0+-
Support Do it do it do it. They're just fanclubs, mostly; "lol i'm an alien" and "IM A HUMAN I PWNZ." Then they fight...or...something. You guise are weird.
Stigma-231Lt. Commander
211 days ago
Score 3+-
Oh, and there's no rewards for working together. It further drives Halopedia apart. WAIT YOU GUYS, stop reading my mind.
Ghost sangheiliColonel
210 days ago
Score 0+-
O.o
DragonclawsBrigadier
211 days ago
Score 2+-
I suggest they be reworked to be less hierarchal and more like Wikipedia wikiprojects. Organization to improve articles is the real point. I have never been a fan of our usergroups, which by their very nature do not work to achieve this goal. So, I vote to get rid of these but not drop the idea entirely, reworking it into wikiproject-type groups.
DavidJCobbMajor
157 days ago
Score 0+-
That could be a good idea -- groups of people that just randomly work to improve articles about certain subjects, rather than ranked organizations.
Zealot masterSergeant
211 days ago
Score 0+-
"With the blood of our fathers, with the blood of our sons we swore to uphold the covenant" "Even to our dying breathe" What do the ancients and the moniters do?
Sub-71Captain
211 days ago
Score 0+-
The Ancients of Halopedia Deal with Flood or Forerunner related articles. While the Monitors deal with the featured articles stuff..
Odysseas-spartan-53Commander
211 days ago
Score 0+-
Support
UltragruntfanPrivate
211 days ago
Score 0+-
I will have to stay Neutral for the moment
Spirit of FireCommander
211 days ago
Score 1+-
Support Standard Council of Halopedia, Oppose Monitors. While the SCoH looks dead, the Monitors can be still useful. I once made a request to join them...
CommanderTonyGeneral
211 days ago
Score 3+-
Both the Monitors and Standards Council are dead.
ThunderCavalierSergeant
211 days ago
Score 0+-
Support for all of the reasons presented by all of the Halopedian members, in particular Subtank and Ghost Sangheili. If someone wants entertainment, they're more than happy to use the Fun section of the Halo wikia.
Flood12345Lieutenant
210 days ago
Score 1+-
I agree with CommanderTony. I had read the UNSC of Halopedia and Covenant of Halopedia liost and they are massive, 90% of that massive list don't do nothing.
Flood12345Lieutenant
210 days ago
Score 0+-
Sorry for the bad writting.
Gunnery Sergeant GonzalezGunnery Sergeant
210 days ago
Score 0+-
Support The usergroups are kind of obsolete now, especially the Ancients, Standard Council and Gamers. UoH and CoH are still pretty major, but most of the members in the UoH at least just join, then stop going on Halopedia.
WhisperingMajor
210 days ago
Score 2+-
I never did get user groups, they always seemed like a cliques to me. The users of Halopeida should be working to better all of the 'pedia not just pages based on certain pages of their "faction".
Devout AtheistColonel
210 days ago
Score 1+-
Never saw a valid reason for their existence. Support
Sith VenatorLt. Commander
210 days ago
Score 2+-
Me too.
S-058Sergeant
206 days ago
Score 1+-
# Support neither did I
Zealot masterSergeant
210 days ago
Score 3+-
Rest in peace... usergroups. "Here lies usergroups of halopedia , torn apart by the ones that made them"
Devout AtheistColonel
189 days ago
Score 0+-
Nicely said.
16807 Compunctious TransgressionCorporal
58 days ago
Score 0+-
Amen
SPARTAN-984Sergeant
210 days ago
Score 0+-
We're at an impasse.

If we disband (but not destroy) the usergroups that means we won't be able to disband the points system and vice versa. I don't know what the result of the points system is. So what will go, Halopedia, the usergroups or the points?

But, all in all, Support for disbanding but not destroying usergroups. And someone please give me the results of that point disbandment thing.
SNES LoverSergeant
209 days ago
Score 0+-
Even though many people like them, them disbanding will help. Support
Spartan-097 Black OneCorporal
209 days ago
Score 1+-
I think that usergroups are perfectly fine right here, because I do not believe that it is decreasing the population of Halopedia. I strongly disagree with CT! I am full oppose!(I don't know how to put sign...Sorry)
CommanderTonyGeneral
209 days ago
Score 0+-
Ummm, we never said that it "decreases the population", only that it is a waste of space due to the fact that users now only join them to be in a group, nothing more.
SubtankBrigadier General
209 days ago
Score 0+-
You can do so: {{Oppose}}, {{Support}}, {{Neutral}}
Spartan-097 Black OneCorporal
209 days ago
Score 0+-
Though I just disagreed ,and still do, I rethought this and, well, Maybe we should keep some of the more active groups. For example I am VERY active in my usergroup, and I believe the Counselors for one and some of the lower ranked members of the usergroup are also active. Also I might like to add tha I am now neutral. (Nicmavr and I are both EXTREMELY active in the CoH!!!!!!!!)
CommanderTonyGeneral
209 days ago
Score 1+-
Really, you're "extremely active"? Why haven't I seen you create any editing projects for you or your fellow members, which would REALLY show "extremely active" usership.
NicmavrColonel
207 days ago
Score 0+-
Um, in no way am I active in the CoH now. Being a councilor, I have to just maintain the group and make sure everything's in order. Doesn't mean I'm active in it.
Zealot masterSergeant
209 days ago
Score 1+-
Do you really think that disbanding the usergroups isa good idea?
CommanderTonyGeneral
209 days ago
Score 2+-
Well do you have any credible reason to keep them, other than you "ranked up high" in the groups?
Dandarro nahanCaptain
209 days ago
Score 0+-
Support- Many have been suspended and elections posponed. Neutral- I don't have a high rank in any so I could honestly care less. This is my OWN personal opinion.
UltragruntfanPrivate
209 days ago
Score 0+-
Support-I think the usergroups are kind of old and Halopedia needs some changes dosent it? KY4EVER-Ultragruntfan
DinoBennLt. Commander
208 days ago
Score -1+-
I oppose this proposal for one main reason: it continues to put too much power in the hands of the administrators and take away power from the average users. I do, however, believe in the disbanding of the current user groups into smaller ones fitted for different classes (weapons, equipment, races, e.t.c.). I have an idea on how to fix the problems with user groups; if we were to appoint users as admins over their respective user groups, then only users that were truly dedicated to productive activity on this wiki could be allowed. That's my view on the matter, and the idea itself is good, CT.
Sith VenatorLt. Commander
208 days ago
Score 1+-
One problem in itself is that like 80% of people that join go inactive by a month at most. Many people in this time will join usergroups. Thus you have so many inactive members making it appear to be nearly dead.
CommanderTonyGeneral
208 days ago
Score 2+-
Do you really think we are power crazy communists who's only goal is to have overwhelming and supreme control over the Halopedian users? Yeah...I think what you said was bat shit crazy too.
Sith VenatorLt. Commander
208 days ago
Score 1+-
Wait whats so crazy about what i said?
CommanderTonyGeneral
208 days ago
Score 1+-
I was referring to DinoBenn's statement, not yours.
DinoBennLt. Commander
207 days ago
Score 1+-
First of all, I actually AM a Communist, so please don't hate on us, or we'll tread on you. Secondly, how is what I said "bat shit crazy"? At least tell me so I can amend my own proposal towards you. It's called critique.
SubtankBrigadier General
207 days ago
Score 2+-
First of all, it doesn't give more power to the Administrators. Remember that the point system is not manipulated by anyone... well, other than Wikia staffs of course. That said, the Administration team is only here to monitor and take care the wiki... So, what you stated is invalid, sorry to say.
DinoBennLt. Commander
207 days ago
Score 0+-
Alright I see now. But still, I think my opinion needs considering. My idea is still a good one is it not?
DavidJCobbMajor
157 days ago
Score 0+-
It's a decent idea, but how would the leaders of groups become the leaders of groups? If they can admin their followers, then we'd have to take similar precautions to the ones taken when electing Wiki-wide admins... So really, they'd either be another kind of Admin, or a less-moderated and potentially more dangerous kind of sub-admin.
GartantumCorporal
155 days ago
Score 0+-
I don't see any problem with dropping the subject. What's done is done. What's the point of complaining about an online hierarchy. We can still edit pages, right? So what does it really change?
Blade baneCaptain
208 days ago
Score 0+-
Support As per reasons stated. Im not active there, neither are most people, so it seems just like a waste of space to me.
McloganatorCaptain
204 days ago
Score 0+-
Speak for yourself.
Blade baneCaptain
180 days ago
Score 0+-
I spoke for myself. After I spoke for myself, I noted that very few members are still active there. I am assuming you thought I was saying no one was active, and you defended against that. However unless you are the one twentieth of people still active, I suggest YOU speak for yourself.
Zealot masterSergeant
208 days ago
Score 0+-
Do it then...
GEARS OF WAR 2Lieutenant
207 days ago
Score -4+-
Will, I might die in few days so I don't care.
GEARS OF WAR 2Lieutenant
207 days ago
Score 3+-
God dammit! My brother got on here!!!!
Kasa \'MakoneeSergeant
207 days ago
Score -2+-
We do not need to disband the Usergroups all we need to do is change them for the better such as removeing Users who do not help and only giveing promotions to Users who deserve it also we should do all we can to advertise and promote helping the Anceints and Gamers. The Moniters and Standerd's Council are inportent to Halopedia and should not be disbanded at all cost. Lastly I urge all Users who are currently Neutral such as Nicmavr, General5 7 and Kougermasters to oppose this misgided proposel.
CommanderTonyGeneral
207 days ago
Score 1+-
Well first off...how does removing all inactive users make the active ones edit more? And secondly...it is THEIR vote, not yours.
DinoBennLt. Commander
206 days ago
Score 1+-
I agree with Tony here. It's their vote. That's how this here (futile) democracy works! And besides, the user groups have been advertised many times.
NicmavrColonel
205 days ago
Score 1+-
I am not Neutral. I'm in Support. And I won't change just because someone wants me to.
Kasa \'MakoneeSergeant
207 days ago
Score 0+-
Well removeing them helps some but just not in that way and it was just a suggestion i'm not forceing them.
JEA13Lt. Commander
207 days ago
Score -2+-
LoL Why aren't they deleted yet? 0_o
SubtankBrigadier General
206 days ago
Score 0+-
Some proposed that the usergroups should be disbanded, but not deleted. It's like having a historic monument to all our efforts. :)
GEARS OF WAR 2Lieutenant
204 days ago
Score 0+-
What efforts? They aren't efforts, there more like embarrassing screw ups. None lasted long, due ALL of our ignorance.
Pie99Recruit
206 days ago
Score 0+-
Good idea. May the once great usergroups rest in peace.
Assyrian OverlordPrivate
193 days ago
Score 0+-
I don't really think any of you will care about my opinion, but if they are useless then I would support.
Kasa \'MakoneeSergeant
190 days ago
Score 0+-
The Improvement Articles have helped improve a lot of pages at least we should keep them or have a site wide one.
Kasa \'MakoneeSergeant
189 days ago
Score 0+-
What do you guys think about a site wide Improvement Article?
SevenCyclesCorporal
186 days ago
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Site wide improvement articles already exist if memory serves.
An elite \'92Gunnery Sergeant
181 days ago
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Support But instead of completely eradicating usergroups, they should be merged into a group of "Halopedians" who can call themselves as they would like (Elites, Humans, Flood, Forerunner constructs, or gamers) for the purpose of Userboxes but are actually equivalent.
Daget SparrowGunnery Sergeant
157 days ago
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And I only sent my request to be in the Covenant of Halopedia the other day! But then again, Tony has raised a good point.
GEARS OF WAR 2Lieutenant
157 days ago
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Don't care. Support
DavidJCobbMajor
157 days ago
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As Subtank said, the points have been a decent motivator for me, though I focus more on editing than on how many points I have. I've seen the groups, but I haven't seen them actively or cooperatively working on anything, and I don't take part in them... So I Support the idea of removing/deconstructing/disabling/ending them.
DavidJCobbMajor
157 days ago
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To add to my comment, if (somehow) the groups end up staying, then inactive members should be moved on to a separate "List of Inactive Members" if their inactivity persists for more than a month.
Spirit-of-HALOBrigadier
157 days ago
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Bo, its gone for good.
Spirit-of-HALOBrigadier
157 days ago
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No* ...
DinoBennLt. Commander
157 days ago
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# Support - I'm going to leave out my "Frankenstein idea" this time around and say I support. Seriously, are we ever going to get this done though? We've had like two sessions now for disbanding the usergroups, why hasn't action been taken and have them gone yet? Seriously. Lack of incentive, or simply procrastination by some large margin?
CommanderTonyGeneral
156 days ago
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Or it's simply the fact that maybe the Administration thought that a break like this may spur up some activity within the groups, with even more proposals trying to keep them.
PX173Gunnery Sergeant
157 days ago
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The usergroups were was brought the community together, but now I think that it's just the trend going on - the more people you add as friends, the more popular you are, they say - or think. Same with usergroups. They gave a sort of motivation for improving the articles, and I think they still are. I'm neutral. But hey, since it's already 19 over here at my place, I guess there's nothing we can do now.
Spartansniper450Commander
156 days ago
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im neutral as well, people are/were motivated to improve for advancement in the groups, but the fact is no group has done anything outstanding lately, so im neutral
ForerunnerColonel
157 days ago
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We don't need Usergroups, period.

Making new usergroups isn't going to fix the problem. The problem is that the groups were founded to unite the community, but over time the community became divided, then mostly gave up on helping the site.

Why not have a poll where we vote on what article we want to fix up, then a link is posted on the sitenotice.
Haloman101Gunnery Sergeant
155 days ago
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its surprising that one blog on halopedia can make a difference and by the way i support the disbanding
Edde \'MahuleePrivate
155 days ago
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I was going to join CoH untill I realized it was DISBANDED! Anyways what's the point of em' now?
BlemoColonel
153 days ago
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Edde \'Mahulee: That's the point of disbandment. There is no point of the usergroups now. :P Haloman101: Yep, that happens a lot. ^_^
BlemoColonel
153 days ago
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I, too, vouch for Ghost Sangheili's "Save the Page" idea.
SPARTANF-259Gunnery Sergeant
152 days ago
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Do it.
Shade LinkSergeant
145 days ago
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Mostly people don't do much in groups because they probably can't find much stuff to edit. It is hard finding mistakes in great wikias. That is probably why they don't edit as much, so I : Oppose:
Strider 658369398Sergeant
145 days ago
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Support Not that there is much i can say(cause they were OK) but dthey needed to go.RIP usergroups.
Strider 658369398Sergeant
144 days ago
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RIP user groups
Shade LinkSergeant
144 days ago
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Guys, give reasons other than lack of activity to ban the groups. This is one of the great wikias, along with Zeldapedia: it is hard to find stuff to edit on such. plus, clubs kinda make wikias funner(not saying they were not fun before they came). So, why don't we see a few other reasons to ban clubs other than the fact it is hard to find stuff to add.
Flamelord13975Recruit
143 days ago
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i oppose disbanding the usergroups
Shade LinkSergeant
143 days ago
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and by the way. I just read that they played a wonderful part in Halopedia History and now you are just throwing them away? They made Halopedia a bit more popular, so why ditch them RIGHT afterwards. Read my other comment ^ Oppose
Edde \'MahuleePrivate
142 days ago
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Too bad they did'nt have any activity


Oh well.
HalosmonitersSergeant
141 days ago
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Its been awhile since I've logged in, its a shame that the usergroups are disembanded :(
Shade LinkSergeant
139 days ago
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You people SHOULD realize that a LOT of people might leave Halopedia if usergroups are destroyed. I don't think i am among those people, but I know a lot of people will be gone afterwards because all that will be left to do is edit an encyclopedia based on the Halo universe. Keep the clubs. This is NOT gonna be good. No, i will not become a vandal just because of the usergroups being destroyed, but I won't find wikias as "fun" if all you can do is type stuff about the Halo universe. Oppose
CommanderTonyGeneral
139 days ago
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We disbanded them already...nobody that we knew (or cared about) left.
Strider 658369398Sergeant
100 days ago
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dude, im sorry. There disbanded, and there is nothing we can do about it! ~~~
Shade LinkSergeant
118 days ago
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they might soon
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